Re: [eppext] RDAP adoption?

Andrew Newton <andy@hxr.us> Tue, 10 November 2015 14:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: [eppext] RDAP adoption?
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On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 10:43 PM, Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> wrote:
>   *  How much operational deployment of servers supporting it is there?

In the RIR space, 4 of the 5 RIRs have production systems with the 5th
working on moving their beta into production.

>
>   *  How much client deployment in software?

At the REGOPS workshop in Prague, I think .CZ mentioned they were
working on a client. And perhaps there was one other TLD doing so as
well.

I've put out NicInfo: https://github.com/arineng/nicinfo
And I do have a browser-based, pure Javascript client in
proof-of-concept stage awaiting my undivided attention to be
completed.

>From a server software standpoint, RIPE NCC's code is open sourced and
on GitHub. CNNIC has a server implementation developed under contract
with ICANN, and ARIN has developed a bootstrap sever (on GitHub) which
is also an ARIN service.

>   *  But ultimately how much client/server use of the protocol is
>      there, so far?
>
>   *  Any sense of the adoption/use trends?

I ran some stats on the ARIN service back in early September (we
deployed in late June, so around 70 days after deployment), and here
is what I had:

Entity queries:        173
Domain queries:        290
IP queries:          40818
Autnum queries:       9203
Registry queries     50224
Bootstrap queries      608
Total Queries        50817

Top 10 User Agents
23270 "-"
15457 "NicInfo
7712 "curl/7.30.0"
1258 "ColdFusion"
1027 "Mozilla/5.0
395 "python-requests/2.7.0
393 "libwww-perl/6.08"
359 "Apache-HttpAsyncClient/4.0
305 "Python-urllib/2.7"
165 "curl/7.19.7

So that is in the noise when compared to port 43 or even ARIN's
proprietary restful service, but it's also new.

>
>   *  Any sense of what is delaying more and better adoption/use?
>
>   *  Any sense of what might improve things?

Yes, movement in the gTLD space. We see a lot of domain queries.

-andy