Re: [eppext] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-smd-04: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
Gustavo Lozano <gustavo.lozano@icann.org> Thu, 18 February 2016 17:20 UTC
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To: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [eppext] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-smd-04: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Thank you for your review Stephen, Regarding the DISCUSS portion of your email: Short story: in the case of the gTLD space, the information regarding the PKI used for validating SMDs is defined here: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-func-spec-00 (sections: 4.1, 5.1.1.3, 5.1.2.3, 5.2.1, 5.2.2, 5.2.3.1, 5.2.3.2, 5.2.4, 5.2.5, 6.2, 6.4). Long story: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-smd-04 (SMD draft) was conceived as a draft defining a mapping of the common elements found in trademark data. The design goal is that the SMD draft specification could be used by any entity (e.g. ccTLDs, gTLDs, trademark validators <-> distribution channel) for mapping the tradermak data. The organizations using the digitally signed portion of the spec will need to define a PKI and the policy for that particular use-case scenario. In the case of new gTLDs, the [ICANN-TMCH] (<http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/about/trademark-clearinghouse/rpm-requiremen ts-30sep13-en.pdf>) is the document (included by reference in the new gTLD contracts) defining the policy / technical requirements. The document [ICANN-TMCH] links to https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-func-spec-00 where the technical requirements are specified. For example, a ccTLD may use this spec with different policy / technical requirements, therefore [ICANN-TMCH] / draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-func-spec-00 is just how it was done in the gTLD space. I included [ICANN-TMCH] to provide the context for the creation of this spec, an as an example of how it was done for new gTLDs. Regarding the COMMENT portion of your email: - Please see the secdir review [1] which raises a number of significant points (including the DISCUSS above) and which hasn't as far as I've seen gotten a response (apologies if I missed that). [1] https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/secdir/current/msg06248.html Gustavo - I think that I resolved all the issues raised in [1] in version 04 of the draft. - "precudle" nice:-) Gustavo - I will fix this :). Regards, Gustavo On 2/15/16, 11:10, "Stephen Farrell" <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote: >Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for >draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-smd-04: Discuss > >When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all >email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this >introductory paragraph, however.) > > >Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html >for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > >The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-smd/ > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >DISCUSS: >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >Section 7 points to [ICANN-TMCH] for signature validation policy >(I think, not quite sure). I did a quick scan (so I might have >missed it) of that document and did not find any mention of >security or signature validation, so what is an implementer >supposed to do, over and above just checking the cryptographic >correctness of the XMLDSIG? Note1: I'm not asking that all of >the details of how to construct a PKI for this functionality be >documented here, somewhere else is fine, but it doesn't seem to >be in [ICANN-TMCH] that I can see, so I don't know what I'd have >to implement, that'd get interop. Note2: I'm also not asking for >a US-DoD-scale super-huge PKI or RPKI to be specified here, >something simpler should work. > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >COMMENT: >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >- Please see the secdir review [1] which raises a number of >significant points (including the DISCUSS above) and which >hasn't as far as I've seen gotten a response (apologies if I >missed that). > > [1] >https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/secdir/current/msg06248.html > >- "precudle" nice:-) > >
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