Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 10:12:07 +0800
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charse=
t=3Dutf-8"><style>body { line-height: 1.5; }blockquote { margin-top: 0px; =
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mily: 'Microsoft YaHei UI'; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); line-height: 1.5; }</styl=
e></head><body>=0A<div><span></span>Dear Colleagues,</div><div><br></div><=
div>Thanks for the effort and contribution to promote the eppext's WG work=
.</div><div><br></div><div>My feedback is below.</div><div><br></div><div>=
Regards,</div><div>Jiagui Xie</div><div><br></div><div>Teleinfo</div>=0A<b=
lockquote style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.5em=
;"><div>&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0=
pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><div style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 8px; PADDING-LE=
FT: 8px; FONT-SIZE: 12px;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma;COLOR:#000000; BACKGROUND: #ef=
efef; PADDING-BOTTOM: 8px; PADDING-TOP: 8px"><div><b>From:</b>&nbsp;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:ietf@antoin.nl">Antoin Verschuren</a></div><div><b>Date:</b>&n=
bsp;2015-12-08&nbsp;18:01</div><div><b>To:</b>&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:eppe=
xt@ietf.org">eppext</a></div><div><b>Subject:</b>&nbsp;Re: [eppext] Rechar=
ter Milestones discussion</div></div></div><div><div>Op 7 dec. 2015, om 04=
:36 heeft Linlin Zhou &lt;zhoulinlin@cnnic.cn&gt; het volgende geschreven:=
</div>=0A<div>&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>&gt; I agree that the WG needs a milesto=
ne and schedule, since we do not have so</div>=0A<div>&gt; much time to wo=
rk on these existing documents in parallel. In my opinion,</div>=0A<div>&g=
t; the logical working process of a draft is that first calling for WG</di=
v>=0A<div>&gt; adoption, approved by WG (discussed and supported on the ma=
iling list or at</div>=0A<div>&gt; the f2f meeting), included in the miles=
tone, etc.. I believe that all the</div>=0A<div>&gt; document should follo=
w the clear working path. If a document has opposed</div>=0A<div>&gt; comm=
ents, whether or not we should discuss the technical stuff first and</div>=
=0A<div>&gt; pend the document included in the charter. The nv draft as a =
single</div>=0A<div>&gt; informational document, which is related to some =
Chinese local policies, I</div>=0A<div>&gt; still do not see a clarified c=
onsensus on it. Shall we discuss if the</div>=0A<div>&gt; document is qual=
ified to be a WG document?</div>=0A<div>&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>OK, so I alrea=
dy heard we want to remove the relay draft from the list of milestones.</d=
iv>=0A<div>That leaves us with a list of 9 documents for WG adoption.</div=
>=0A<div>You specifically want to hear a voice of adoption for the informa=
tional nv-mapping draft.</div>=0A<div>What does the WG think of this docum=
ent?</div>=0A<div>Should we adopt it now, or remove it from the list of mi=
lestones and possibly add it later as a WG item?</div>=0A<div>&nbsp;</div>=
<div><b>Jiagui:&nbsp;</b></div><div>&nbsp;Linlin &amp; Antoin,&nbsp;<span =
style=3D"font-family: ''; font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 1.5; background-=
color: window;">Although&nbsp;the&nbsp;starting&nbsp;point&nbsp;of&nbsp;&n=
bsp;the&nbsp;nv&nbsp;draft&nbsp;is&nbsp;from&nbsp;the&nbsp;local&nbsp;solu=
tion,&nbsp;We&nbsp;see&nbsp;that&nbsp;in</span></div><div><span style=3D"f=
ont-family: ''; font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 1.5; background-color: win=
dow;">&nbsp;the&nbsp;southeast&nbsp;asia&nbsp;and&nbsp;eastern&nbsp;europe=
,&nbsp;there are&nbsp;some&nbsp;countries have&nbsp;already&nbsp;considere=
d&nbsp;the&nbsp;verification,</span><span style=3D"background-color: windo=
w; font-family: ''; font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 1.5;">&nbsp;they&nbsp;=
have&nbsp;the&nbsp;same&nbsp;requirments.&nbsp;</span></div><div><span sty=
le=3D"font-family: ''; font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 1.5; background-col=
or: window;">&nbsp;And&nbsp;this&nbsp;draft&nbsp;is&nbsp;not&nbsp;bound&nb=
sp;to&nbsp;China&nbsp;local&nbsp;policy&nbsp;too,&nbsp;it&nbsp;is&nbsp;jus=
t&nbsp;a&nbsp;third-party&nbsp;verification&nbsp;model&nbsp;which&nbsp;may=
&nbsp;be&nbsp;useful&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;global&nbsp;technical&nbsp;comm=
unity.</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-family: ''; font-size: 10.5pt;=
 line-height: 1.5; background-color: window;">&nbsp;I&nbsp;welcome&nbsp;an=
y&nbsp;comments&nbsp;on&nbsp;this&nbsp;draft&nbsp;from&nbsp;this&nbsp;WG,&=
nbsp;&nbsp;but&nbsp;I&nbsp;do&nbsp;think&nbsp;the&nbsp;discussion&nbsp;sho=
uld&nbsp;be&nbsp;based&nbsp;on&nbsp;its&nbsp;technical&nbsp;merits&nbsp;an=
d&nbsp;discussion</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-family: ''; font-si=
ze: 10.5pt; line-height: 1.5; background-color: window;">&nbsp;ought&nbsp;=
to&nbsp;be&nbsp;focused&nbsp;on&nbsp;the&nbsp;technical&nbsp;solution&nbsp=
;itself&nbsp;and&nbsp;on&nbsp;any&nbsp;possible&nbsp;technical&nbsp;issues=
&nbsp;relating&nbsp;to&nbsp;it.</span></div><div><br></div>=0A<div>&gt; Fo=
r the priority issue, I think the document with most discussion and</div>=
=0A<div>&gt; support should be listed in the first priority. The verificat=
ion drafts were</div>=0A<div>&gt; proposed before last IETF, there's still=
 no thorough discussion about them</div>=0A<div>&gt; on the mailing list. =
It is somewhat a hurry to complete 3 drafts WGLC in a</div>=0A<div>&gt; pe=
riod of time less than one month. Moreover, most of the WG members will</d=
iv>=0A<div>&gt; have a Christmas holiday, I guess. Though we don't have su=
ch a long holiday</div>=0A<div>&gt; in China :)</div>=0A<div>&nbsp;</div>=
=0A<div>So what do you propose here?</div>=0A<div>Should we prioritize the=
 reseller draft since it had more review over the verification draft(s)?</=
div>=0A<div>So put reseller in group 1 and verification in group 2?</div>=
=0A<div>What does te WG think of this proposal?</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A=
<div>&gt; Again, I feel obliged to discuss more about the technical issues=
 on existing</div>=0A<div>&gt; drafts. Let's move this recharter work and =
take action on drafts as soon as</div>=0A<div>&gt; possible.</div>=0A<div>=
&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>I also want to speed up the technical discussion as we=
 have enough work to do.</div>=0A<div>So let=E2=80=99s get this charter di=
scussion out of our way and create a list of milestones so we know what wo=
rk lies ahead.</div>=0A<div>&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>Regards,</div>=0A<div>&nbs=
p;</div>=0A<div>- --</div>=0A<div>Antoin Verschuren</div>=0A<div>&nbsp;</d=
iv>=0A<div>Tweevoren 6, 5672 SB Nuenen, NL</div>=0A<div>M: +31 6 37682392<=
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