[ericas] Fwd: Re: [88attendees] AFRICANs @ the IETF 88
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Subject: [ericas] Fwd: Re: [88attendees] AFRICANs @ the IETF 88
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> ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Asmic Computers ZA/NG <asmicom@ngportal.com> > To: Spencer Dawkins <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>, "Fred Baker (fred)" > <fred@cisco.com> > Cc: "88attendees@ietf.org" <88attendees@ietf.org> > Date: 08 November 2013 at 11:53 > Subject: Re: [88attendees] AFRICANs @ the IETF 88 > > Many thanks goes to Spencer Dawkins and Fred Baker for the non-exhaustive > list of things we should also look into. They are highly informative. > > > There are just so much things to talk about that time wouldn't permit us to > do this morning. > > > Parts of the Agenda::: > 1. Contributing to the IETF: The IETF 88 just showed many of us how ideas are > turned into standards. Wouldn't it be good to see (native) African names on an > RFC, IAB, WG-chairs, e.t.c.? One way of doing so is by having a "fighting > spirit" with continuous mentorship/support from the IETF members & various > bodies. Just before the term "WebRTC or RTCWeb" came into the limelight in > 2011 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC), someone from Africa had earlier > seen a need for it > (http://conferences.sigcomm.org/co-next/2007/papers/studentabstracts/paper23.pdf). > It was in 2007 that the idea first came up and a proof of concept was later > developed (http://bit.ly/R3SFtc). Today, the RTCWeb Working Group is now > standardizing it. It started out as an application (OR an idea) -i.e. > getting SIP into browsers for browser-to-browser communication. I am certain > that there are some many other ideas like that coming out of Africa. We now > need to push ourselves further to get our names there. > > 2. Getting more people involved: AT the moment, over ten people (students, > academics, e.t.c.) from different African countries have asked me how they can > get involved in the IETF activities. SOme other IETF 88 fellows from the > continent have also suggested that we talk about ways of sharing our > experiences. The situation is not peculiar to Africa. Many thanks to the task > force from South America that now wants to guide us on possible > ways/solutions. > > 3. Re-imaging the world's view about Africa: Yes, I used the word "re-image." > I am referring to the computing concept from "virtual images." What people > hear/see about the continent (mostly negative things) is different from what > they see, when the visit (some parts of) the continent. How do we get the > continent to earn its own respect like Asia and South America? (Ref - > http://www.siliconafrica.com/it-takes-a-network-to-beat-a-network/) > > > Please feel free to dump your thoughts as you've been doing..... > > Regards. > > > > On 08 November 2013 at 08:30 Spencer Dawkins > > <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On 11/7/2013 8:24 PM, Fred Baker (fred) wrote: > > > On Nov 7, 2013, at 3:07 AM, Asmic Computers ZA/NG <asmicom@ngportal.com> > > > wrote: > > >> I would be interested in talking to you all on how we can improve on our > > >> representation and contributions to the IETF. It would also be good to > > >> discuss how we can help develop the continent via this network. > > > An important consideration in this is that while your presence in > > > meetings is valuable, your presence on mailing lists is also valuable and > > > comparatively inexpensive. As a first step, you might consider looking > > > through the set of drafts labeled draft-ietf-*.txt, which is to say > > > "working group drafts". Their working group will generally be the third > > > word, like draft-ietf-ospf or draft-ietf-v6ops. Access them online, and, > > > if they interest you, comment on them. The most interesting comments will > > > be those that improve them in some way - identify issues and suggest > > > text. That will get african viewpoints into discussions regarding current > > > work product. > > > > > > BTW, the same goes for south americans and anyone else that feels > > > under-represented. Get involved on mailing lists. > > > > > > Daily news can be found at https://www.ietf.org, and specifically > > > http://tools.ietf.org/dailydose/. It takes a minute to look at it, and > > > from time to time you may find something of interest to comment on. You > > > can also go to http://tools.ietf.org/html/. > > > > > > If you need guidance regarding a given working group, the obvious people > > > to get it from are the chairs, which you can reach by emailing the > > > -chairs@tools.ietf.org list for the working group. For example, if you > > > want to reach the v6ops chairs, email v6ops-chairs@tools.ietf.org. For a > > > list of the working groups and access to their charters and their mailing > > > list membership processes, go to http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/. > > > > > > The next step might include writing your own drafts and submitting them > > > for discussion. But you don't need to rush into that; get a sense of > > > what's going on and then contribute to it. > > > > I agree with Fred's suggestions, and wanted to mention a couple of other > > things ... > > > > If during your checking around you find problems with protocols we're > > working on that don't work in your particular country or environment, > > please tell us. > > > > I'm remembering (possibly dreaming, it's been a long week) that GeoPriv > > was rolling along when someone somewhere in Asia pointed out that in > > their country, and perhaps only in their country, some civic addresses > > included *alleys*, and asked how these addresses should be encoded. If > > we hadn't heard from participants from that country, we wouldn't have > > known until someone tried to deploy products in that country > > (inconveniently late for a standards discussion). > > > > The TSV area has been looking at a tunneling/compression/multiplexing > > proposal (details at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/87/tcmtf.html, and > > this is likely to pop back up at IETF 89 in London, if the BOF > > requestors ask for that). It turns out that we got some support from > > African participants who find it fits their connectivity to the rest of > > the Internet. > > > > You might also check out the discussions to date on the diversity > > mailing list, where people are doing things like asking what it would > > take to set up regional meetings for folks who can't travel to an IETF > > meeting, so that more people can engage and contribute. See > > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/diversity/current/maillist.html for > > the archive. > > > > If you're thinking about how to help people back home who weren't able > > to attend, you might also make use of training materials from the Sunday > > tutorials (for instance, the IETF 87 Newcomer's Training is at > > http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/87/slides/slides-87-edu-newcomers-4.pdf > > - I just reported that the IETF 88 version returned a 404/not found). > > These aren't all process tutorials, either - for instance, if people > > care about realtime applications and infrastructure, > > http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/88/slides/slides-88-edu-introtorai-0.pdf > > would be helpful. > > > > I hope this helps you and your colleagues contribute effectively to the > > IETF. > > > > Spencer, in this case, writing as an AD > > >
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