Re: [ericas] IETF Meeting in South America

[Stephen Farrell <[e-mail]>]

Hi Julião,

On 05/24/2013 06:19 PM, Juliao Braga wrote:
> Hello SM,
> 
> I'd like to remember that the Regional IETF Meetings not necessarily
> must to have the same format as Annual Meetings. The main concern is
> that they are (a) motivators for participation in the Annual Meetings,
> (b) strengthen and give more flexibility in the progress of WG (not that
> the progress is slow, currently), and (c) encourage participation in
> Annual Meetings, even remotely, including write drafts, doing reviews as
> Melinda said.

Isn't that a bit backwards in a sense? The easiest and most
important form of participation is remote - contributing to
list discussions, reviewing and authoring drafts. Going to
meetings is important too, but less so.

Sorry to jump on just this point, but I think its important
that everyone realise that if you can write good technical
emails about protocols then you have all you need to be an
as-fully-paid-up-as-anyone IETF participant.

Cheers,
S.

> 
> Whenever possible I'm talking about the IETF in articles and lectures,
> as you know. I'm returning to my academic life and therefore will be
> more effective in spreading within the Brazilian Computer Society (SBC).
> 
> IETF will create a form and we can ask in the mailing list of SBC (and
> others). Who knows we can have numbers and others informations?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Julião
> 
> Em 24/05/2013 11:43, SM escreveu:
>> Hi Juliao,
>> At 18:34 23-05-2013, Juliao Braga wrote:
>>> I stare at the map of where the IETF meetings occurred
>>> (http://ws.org.br/index.php/IETF_Meetings) and wondering if the fact of
>>> bringing some of the meetings to below the Equator could lead to
>>> increase people participation.
>>
>> That's a nice map.  It highlights the division between the northern and
>> southern hemispheres.
>>
>>> The answer is always negative. Will not increase participation of more
>>> people.
>>>
>>> Fellowships will help? Certainly not. Resources are finite.
>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>>> How then can we increase participation in meetings of the IETF? My
>>> answer to the question may seem strange: increasing the number of annual
>>> meetings.
>>
>> The answer did sound strange at first.  I think that your answer might
>> be appropriate for a different question.
>>
>> At 19:37 23-05-2013, Juliao Braga wrote:
>>> I think we will have new challenges to be defined. New opportunities for
>>> change that can stimulate, for example, the coming of researchers
>>> immersed in universities and / or research centers, not yet
>>> participating in the IETF. Maybe they can not submit drafts, but can
>>> contribute to foster the knowledge of those who produce drafts or
>>> working as reviewers. Regarding the participation in discussions of the
>>> mailing lists, I think that they might be involved with reasonable
>>> intensity, ideas, and knowledge.
>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>>> Perhaps the IETF should and can change (not where it has always been a
>>> success) to capture new people.
>>
>> It would take a huge effort to do the above.  A person trying to do it
>> will make a lot of enemies.
>>
>> Do you know people in universities or research centers in South America
>> who might be interested in contributing their knowledge?  If so, could
>> you ask them to comment on ericas?
>>
>> Regards,
>> -sm
>>
> 
>