Re: [ericas] IETF Meeting in South America

[Juliao Braga <[e-mail]>]

Hello Stephen,

Probably I'm lost. So I need some answers.

1. What we looking for?
1.1. Realize a IETF below the Equator line (Buenos Aires is a great option)?
1.2. Encouraging people of so-called "emerging countries" to participate
in IETF meetings (in person or remotely)?

2. Why?
2.1. (1.2) <=> (1.1)? My answer is NO!
2.2. IETF needs more people to work? My answer is YES! Protocols are in
change, new technologies (ontologies, Semantic Web, ...), new
techniques, etc.
2.3. We want more people to participate, effectively (a.k.a. Melinda
three points)? So, what do we need to do?

3. What kind of things should we discuss?
3.1. Costs of travel and stay? In the context of this can be irrelevant
(we can participate remotely...). In any place of the world, costs are
equivalent, I think.
3.2. Show what do IETF, ISOC, and others for people who do not know yet?
3.3. Food an meals in the IETF meetings?

4. Some observations:
4.1. The personal attendance at meetings of the IETF are falling after
year 2000. See the blue line at Figure 3 (Figura 3, in Portuguese) in
http://ii.blog.br/2013/01/10/ietf-d-58-como-participar-das-reunioes-do-ietf/,
at the end. I do not know about the remote participation. The red line
is participation of Brazilians (a real disaster!)
4.2. The participation of LACNIC is in the last position (2.? %).
4.3. Clearly the issues related to Infrastructure Internet are becoming
more complex. (2.2 above).

Finally, where should we discuss this? In ericas list or ietf list?

Regards,

Julião
PS: We can not forget that I express better in Portuguese. So I can be
causing, eventually, some problems of understanding, which will require
further clarification.

Em 24/05/2013 14:31, Stephen Farrell escreveu:
> 
> Hi Julião,
> 
> On 05/24/2013 06:19 PM, Juliao Braga wrote:
>> Hello SM,
>>
>> I'd like to remember that the Regional IETF Meetings not necessarily
>> must to have the same format as Annual Meetings. The main concern is
>> that they are (a) motivators for participation in the Annual Meetings,
>> (b) strengthen and give more flexibility in the progress of WG (not that
>> the progress is slow, currently), and (c) encourage participation in
>> Annual Meetings, even remotely, including write drafts, doing reviews as
>> Melinda said.
> 
> Isn't that a bit backwards in a sense? The easiest and most
> important form of participation is remote - contributing to
> list discussions, reviewing and authoring drafts. Going to
> meetings is important too, but less so.
> 
> Sorry to jump on just this point, but I think its important
> that everyone realise that if you can write good technical
> emails about protocols then you have all you need to be an
> as-fully-paid-up-as-anyone IETF participant.
> 
> Cheers,
> S.
>