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Re: [ericas] Western, individualist conception of things (was: A suggestion for the Tao of the IETF)

Vinayak Hegde <vinayakh@gmail.com> Sun, 23 June 2013 16:32 UTC

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From: Vinayak Hegde <vinayakh@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [ericas] Western, individualist conception of things (was: A suggestion for the Tao of the IETF)
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On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 2:51 AM, S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> wrote:

> Hi Vinayak,
>
> I am posting this message from an email address so that it is easy for you
> to find out who pays me.  You can determine whether my employer will derive
> any benefit from what I say or do.


Not sure why this is necessary. I am not doubting your intentions.


>
>  That said, I have done a bit of travelling myself. Many people from the
>> western world do not have any idea about the amount of pain one has to go
>> through for something they take for granted (or even bother). Just ask
>> someone young from a developing country who has
>>
>
> I think that one of the problems is what you said above.  People do not
> have any idea about the amount of pain one has to go to and they take a lot
> of things for granted.
>

This just came in the news - Indians visiting the UK will not have to
deposit a 3000 British Pound bond to visit the UK.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/indians-to-pay-3000-cash-bond-deposit-for-uk-visa/article4843455.ece

Just to give an idea, this is 3 months (or more) salary for a mid-level
engineer. Luckily it does not seem to apply for short visits like IETF
meetings.

-- Vinayak

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