Re: [EToSat] [QUIC performance and SATCOM]
Emmanuel Lochin <emmanuel.lochin@isae-supaero.fr> Thu, 10 October 2019 11:52 UTC
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Subject: Re: [EToSat] [QUIC performance and SATCOM]
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Dear Joerg, Tom, If you attempt to mimic a satellite link with Netem or Dummynet, you might be interested in having a better emulation system such as OpenSAND : http://opensand.org/ If you need to be convinced by the capabilities of OpenSAND, check this paper : "Making Trustable Satellite Experiments: an Application to a VoIP Scenario" available here : http://oatao.univ-toulouse.fr/21907/ EL Le 10/10/2019 à 12:45, Tom Jones a écrit : > On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 04:55:58PM +0200, Joerg Deutschmann wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> we continued our QUIC over satellite performance measurements with >> different operators and QUIC implementations. Unfortunately, these are >> still only black-box tests. The results were presented at the 25th >> KaConf. The related paper [1] also gives an introduction to QUIC, >> therefore you probably want to skip to section 4 and 5. >> >> [1] www7content.cs.fau.de/~deutschmann/KaConf2019/KaConf2019_QUICoverSatellite_paper.pdf > Hi, > > thanks for sharing these results. > > Could you expand, maybe off list, the problems you had with netem and > Linux? > > We have network emulation testbeds here using both dummynet on FreeBSD > and netem on Linux and with some work we managed to get similar network > charactaristics out of both. I do wonder if we might have missed something > that you have seen though. > > >> Best regards, >> Joerg >> >> >> >> >> On 15.02.19 16:48, Joerg Deutschmann wrote: >>> Dear all, >>> >>> thanks for the link to this interesting paper. We did some related work, >>> which you might be interested in. It will be presented at the NetSys >>> 2019 conference [1]. A version is available at [2]. >>> >>> While your "QUIC and SATCOM" paper provides more details regarding >>> HTTP/2 vs. QUIC, we took a broader view. We measured page load times >>> over HTTP(S)/1.1 and HTTP/2, with and without VPNs. Additionally we set >>> up two Quic servers (Chromium QUIC and quic-go). All tests were run with >>> three different satellite internet providers, showing quite some >>> differences... >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Joerg >>> >>> [1] www.netsys2019.org >>> [2] www7content.cs.fau.de/~deutschmann/NetSys2019_preprint.pdf >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 09.11.18 04:35, Kuhn Nicolas wrote: >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> We have recently posted on ArXiv an article on QUIC and its >>>> performance over a GEO SATCOM link. >>>> >>>> https://arxiv.org/pdf/1810.04970.pdf >>>> >>>> This paper has been presented at IETF 103 @MAPRG >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-maprg-00 >>>> >>>> The code used to run these experiments is available, so do not >>>> hesitate to contact us if you want to reproduce our experiments. >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> >>>> Ludovic Thomas (ISAE-SUPAERO), Emmanuel Dubois (CNES), Nicolas Kuhn >>>> (CNES), Emmanuel Lochin (ISAE-SUPAERO) >>>> > > >> _______________________________________________ >> EToSat mailing list >> EToSat@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/etosat > -- Emmanuel LOCHIN Professeur ISAE ISAE SUPAERO - Institut Supérieur de l'Aéronautique et de l'Espace 10 avenue Edouard Belin - BP 54032 - 31055 TOULOUSE CEDEX 4 FRANCE - http://www.isae-supaero.fr Tel +33 5 61 33 84 85 - Fax (+33) 5 61 33 83 45 Web : http://personnel.isae.fr/emmanuel-lochin/ Raconter la science, imaginer l'avenir : Journée Portes Ouvertes de l'ISAE-SUPAERO, rendez-vous le samedi 12 octobre de 10h à 18h! Toutes les infos sur isae-supaero.fr
- [EToSat] [QUIC performance and SATCOM] Kuhn Nicolas
- Re: [EToSat] [QUIC performance and SATCOM] Joerg Deutschmann
- Re: [EToSat] [QUIC performance and SATCOM] Joerg Deutschmann
- Re: [EToSat] [QUIC performance and SATCOM] Kuhn Nicolas
- Re: [EToSat] [QUIC performance and SATCOM] Tom Jones
- Re: [EToSat] [QUIC performance and SATCOM] Emmanuel Lochin
- Re: [EToSat] [QUIC performance and SATCOM] Border, John
- Re: [EToSat] [QUIC performance and SATCOM] Joerg Deutschmann
- Re: [EToSat] [QUIC performance and SATCOM] Kuhn Nicolas