Re: [EToSat] [QUIC performance and SATCOM]

Emmanuel Lochin <emmanuel.lochin@isae-supaero.fr> Thu, 10 October 2019 11:52 UTC

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Dear Joerg, Tom,

If you attempt to mimic a satellite link with Netem or Dummynet, you 
might be interested in having a better emulation system such as OpenSAND 
: http://opensand.org/
If you need to be convinced by the capabilities of OpenSAND, check this 
paper : "Making Trustable Satellite Experiments: an Application to a 
VoIP Scenario" available here : http://oatao.univ-toulouse.fr/21907/

EL

Le 10/10/2019 à 12:45, Tom Jones a écrit :
> On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 04:55:58PM +0200, Joerg Deutschmann wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> we continued our QUIC over satellite performance measurements with
>> different operators and QUIC implementations. Unfortunately, these are
>> still only black-box tests. The results were presented at the 25th
>> KaConf. The related paper [1] also gives an introduction to QUIC,
>> therefore you probably want to skip to section 4 and 5.
>>
>> [1] www7content.cs.fau.de/~deutschmann/KaConf2019/KaConf2019_QUICoverSatellite_paper.pdf
> Hi,
>
> thanks for sharing these results.
>
> Could you expand, maybe off list, the problems you had with netem and
> Linux?
>
> We have network emulation testbeds here using both dummynet on FreeBSD
> and netem on Linux and with some work we managed to get similar network
> charactaristics out of both. I do wonder if we might have missed something
> that you have seen though.
>
>
>> Best regards,
>> Joerg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 15.02.19 16:48, Joerg Deutschmann wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> thanks for the link to this interesting paper. We did some related work,
>>> which you might be interested in. It will be presented at the NetSys
>>> 2019 conference [1]. A version is available at [2].
>>>
>>> While your "QUIC and SATCOM" paper provides more details regarding
>>> HTTP/2 vs. QUIC, we took a broader view. We measured page load times
>>> over HTTP(S)/1.1 and HTTP/2, with and without VPNs. Additionally we set
>>> up two Quic servers (Chromium QUIC and quic-go). All tests were run with
>>> three different satellite internet providers, showing quite some
>>> differences...
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Joerg
>>>
>>> [1] www.netsys2019.org
>>> [2] www7content.cs.fau.de/~deutschmann/NetSys2019_preprint.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09.11.18 04:35, Kuhn Nicolas wrote:
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> We have recently posted on ArXiv an article on QUIC and its
>>>> performance over a GEO SATCOM link.
>>>>
>>>> https://arxiv.org/pdf/1810.04970.pdf
>>>>
>>>> This paper has been presented at IETF 103 @MAPRG
>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-maprg-00
>>>>
>>>> The code used to run these experiments is available, so do not
>>>> hesitate to contact us if you want to reproduce our experiments.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> Ludovic Thomas (ISAE-SUPAERO), Emmanuel Dubois (CNES), Nicolas Kuhn
>>>> (CNES), Emmanuel Lochin (ISAE-SUPAERO)
>>>>
>
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