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Re: [EToSat] New Version Notification for draft-lhan-problems-requirements-satellite-net-02.txt

Arashmid Akhavain <arashmid.akhavain@gmail.com> Wed, 23 February 2022 14:48 UTC

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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2022 09:48:08 -0500
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Subject: Re: [EToSat] New Version Notification for draft-lhan-problems-requirements-satellite-net-02.txt
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Very good point Marie-Jose! Satellite networks can be viewed as transport.
They can use other routing and addressing methods to move all sorts of
different payloads between ground stations. The ground stations of course
will need to take care of encapsulation and decapsulation.

On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 5:54 AM Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com>
wrote:

> The 1st generation of Starlink satellites does not have any on-board
> processing. So of course you will not see the satellites.
>
> Even if they had on-board processing (to get intersatellite links) why
> would they use IP routing outside of the ground network as they control the
> who network?
>
> mjm
>
>
> Marie-José Montpetit, Ph.D.
> marie@mjmontpetit.com
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>
>
> From: David Fernández <davidfdzp@gmail.com> <davidfdzp@gmail.com>
> Reply: David Fernández <davidfdzp@gmail.com> <davidfdzp@gmail.com>
> Date: February 23, 2022 at 5:34:36 AM
> To: etosat@ietf.org <etosat@ietf.org> <etosat@ietf.org>
> Subject:  Re: [EToSat] New Version Notification for
> draft-lhan-problems-requirements-satellite-net-02.txt
>
> Dear all,
>
> In Starlink, a traceroute command does not show the satellites, just
> the gateway. I think that this is an indication that they are not
> using IP routing protocols.
>
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Starlink/comments/hbicej/maybe_dumb_question_what_will_we_see_on_traceroute
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Starlink/comments/jo4fcu/traceroutemtr_anyone
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Starlink/comments/mym6tt/puzzeling_trace_route
>
> Has anybody tried traceroute on Iridium? OneWeb? Others?
>
> Best regards,
>
> David
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