Re: [Extra] imap4rev2: RFC6851 MOVE

"Bron Gondwana" <brong@fastmailteam.com> Fri, 09 November 2018 23:09 UTC

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Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2018 18:09:35 -0500
From: Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmailteam.com>
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Subject: Re: [Extra] imap4rev2: RFC6851 MOVE
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Honestly it's not 100% atomic in Cyrus, but it's pretty safe and it fails in the "as if it was the copy / store / expunge sequence". 
 
Bron
 
On Sat, 10 Nov 2018, at 06:07, Brandon Long wrote: 
> Agreed, it was pretty trivial to implement for Gmail, though maybe it was more trivial for us than for servers which keep folders more structurally separate, ie I can imagine mbox based servers having more trouble making it atomic, but I don't know how much they already have that problem. 
>  
> I think for most GUI clients, move is the default action, having to make two separate calls for that seems unnecessary, even if they can be pipelined. 
>  
> Brandon 
>  
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 4:57 PM Stuart Brandt <stujenerin=40aol.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: 
>> MOVE is a slam dunk in my view. Its support in clients is much broader  
>>  than just Thunderbird. 
>>   
>>  - Stu 
>>   
>>  On 11/8/2018 6:25 AM, Bron Gondwana wrote: 
>>  > This is one of the open issues from imap4rev2 - which extensions should 
>>  > be part of the mandatory baseline. 
>>  > 
>>  > In favour - it's quite useful, and has fairly wide server support 
>>  > (including Gmail and Exchange), and at least Thunderbird as a client 
>>  > uses it. 
>>  > 
>>  > Against - Oracle haven't implemented it. 
>>  > 
>>  > Arguments for and against in response to this please. 
>>  > 
>>  > Cheers, 
>>  > 
>>  > Bron. 
>>  > 
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