Re: [Extra] Is this a plausible IMAP extension ?
Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> Wed, 27 February 2019 14:08 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Extra] Is this a plausible IMAP extension ?
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On 27/02/2019 06:32, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: > On Wednesday 27 February 2019 04:06:36 CET, John R. Levine wrote: >> There is this thing called BIMI that is being debated elsewhere in >> the IETF. Leaving aside for the moment the issue of whether it's a >> good idea in the first place, it invents an IMAP feature that seems >> dodgy to me. >> >> When an MTA that supports BIMI delivers a message into the mailstore, >> it adds a header that tells MUAs where to find a logo to show next to >> the message. (Think of it as x-face for corporations.) Since bad >> people could phish victims with their own header with a misleading >> image, BIMI invents a new IMAP flag that only the delivery MTA can >> set on messages where it has added a virtuous header. An MUA can >> test it to decide whether to show the logo. Other IMAP or POP >> clients can't set the flag, but it presumably stays with the message >> if it's moved from one folder to another. > > There is a sort of expectation with IMAP that you can copy messages. > That you can copy your entire mail archive from fastmail to gmail and > the result will work as before. There are programs to do this, > imapsync for example, and doesn't one of the big MUAs have this > builtin, too? > > BIMI wouldn't. With BIMI, the copy would be degraded, not complete. To expand on this: the answer would depend on whether a particular IMAP server supports a particular IMAP keyword or storage of arbitrary IMAP keywords. Support for arboitrary IMAP keywords is relatively widely implemented feature in IMAP servers, but unfortunately it is an optional feature.
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- Re: [Extra] Is this a plausible IMAP extension ? Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [Extra] Is this a plausible IMAP extension ? Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Extra] Is this a plausible IMAP extension ? Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [Extra] Is this a plausible IMAP extension ? Ned Freed
- Re: [Extra] Is this a plausible IMAP extension ? Ned Freed
- Re: [Extra] Is this a plausible IMAP extension ? John R. Levine
- Re: [Extra] Is this a plausible IMAP extension ? Bron Gondwana
- Re: [Extra] Is this a plausible IMAP extension ? John Levine
- Re: [Extra] Is this a plausible IMAP extension ? Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [Extra] Is this a plausible IMAP extension ? John Levine
- Re: [Extra] Is this a plausible IMAP extension ? Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [Extra] Is this a plausible IMAP extension ? John Levine
- Re: [Extra] Is this a plausible IMAP extension ? Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [Extra] Is this a plausible IMAP extension ? John Levine
- Re: [Extra] Is this a plausible IMAP extension ? Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [Extra] Is this a plausible IMAP extension ? Lyndon Nerenberg
- Re: [Extra] Is this a plausible IMAP extension ? Ned Freed
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- Re: [Extra] Is this a plausible IMAP extension ? Ned Freed
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- Re: [Extra] Is this a plausible IMAP extension ? Ned Freed
- Re: [Extra] Is this a plausible IMAP extension ? Robert Mueller
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