Re: [Extra] I-D Action: draft-ietf-extra-sieve-special-use-01.txt
Stephan Bosch <stephan.bosch@dovecot.fi> Sat, 04 August 2018 10:37 UTC
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From: Stephan Bosch <stephan.bosch@dovecot.fi>
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Subject: Re: [Extra] I-D Action: draft-ietf-extra-sieve-special-use-01.txt
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Hi Ned, Op 18/07/2018 om 22:58 schreef Stephan Bosch: > Op 13/06/2018 om 17:40 schreef Ned Freed: >> I also reviewed the rest of the revised draft, and it's looking good. >> My one >> remaining concern is with the handling of multiple mailboxes having the >> same special-use flag assigned. The draft currently says: >> >> More than one mailbox in the user's personal namespace can have a >> particular special-use flag assigned. In case of such ambiguity, the >> mailbox that is chosen for delivery is implementation-defined. >> However, while the set of mailboxes to which the involved special-use >> flags are assigned remains unchanged, implementations MUST ensure >> that the mailbox choice is made consistently, so that the same >> mailbox is used every time. Conversely, the chosen mailbox MAY >> change once the special-use flag assignments that are relevant for >> the mailbox choice are changed (usually by user interaction). >> >> I don't see a way I can reasonably implement this MUST via IMAP >> unless the IMAP server always returns the list of special-use >> mailboxes in the same order. >> Sure, I can cache the user/special-use-attribute/actual-mailbox-list >> tuple >> somewhere, but caches can always be lost. And mailbox metadata is (a) >> Potentially much too expensive and (b) Subject to the vagarities of user >> actions. >> >> I'm not happy about it, but I think this needs to become a SHOULD. > > Ok. I am not too attached to the MUST anyway. Addressed here: https://github.com/ietfextra/draft-ietf-extra-sieve-special-use/commit/024330130d5af6ff29e48ad137844cbe5fbf5243 >> Another possibility is to use the default mailbox name as a means of >> disambiguating multiple mailboxes with the same special-use attribute: >> If the default mailbox is one of these deliver to it preferentially, >> otherwise the behavior is implementation-defined. Not perfect, but it >> provides a bit more consistent behavior that's easily achievable. >> > > Sounds like a good idea. I'll give this a closer look for the next > revision. Addressed here: https://github.com/ietfextra/draft-ietf-extra-sieve-special-use/commit/a1b8d4f83109424448b51b65fbc014a73a479997 Regards, Stephan.
- Re: [Extra] I-D Action: draft-ietf-extra-sieve-sp… Ned Freed
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- Re: [Extra] I-D Action: draft-ietf-extra-sieve-sp… Stephan Bosch
- Re: [Extra] I-D Action: draft-ietf-extra-sieve-sp… Ned Freed
- Re: [Extra] I-D Action: draft-ietf-extra-sieve-sp… Stephan Bosch
- Re: [Extra] I-D Action: draft-ietf-extra-sieve-sp… Ned Freed
- Re: [Extra] I-D Action: draft-ietf-extra-sieve-sp… Stephan Bosch
- Re: [Extra] I-D Action: draft-ietf-extra-sieve-sp… Stephan Bosch
- Re: [Extra] I-D Action: draft-ietf-extra-sieve-sp… Stephan Bosch
- Re: [Extra] I-D Action: draft-ietf-extra-sieve-sp… Stephan Bosch
- Re: [Extra] I-D Action: draft-ietf-extra-sieve-sp… Ned Freed
- Re: [Extra] I-D Action: draft-ietf-extra-sieve-sp… Stephan Bosch
- Re: [Extra] I-D Action: draft-ietf-extra-sieve-sp… Stephan Bosch
- Re: [Extra] I-D Action: draft-ietf-extra-sieve-sp… Stan Kalisch
- Re: [Extra] I-D Action: draft-ietf-extra-sieve-sp… Stephan Bosch
- Re: [Extra] I-D Action: draft-ietf-extra-sieve-sp… Stephan Bosch
- Re: [Extra] I-D Action: draft-ietf-extra-sieve-sp… Bron Gondwana
- Re: [Extra] I-D Action: draft-ietf-extra-sieve-sp… Stephan Bosch
- Re: [Extra] I-D Action: draft-ietf-extra-sieve-sp… Ned Freed
- Re: [Extra] I-D Action: draft-ietf-extra-sieve-sp… Bron Gondwana
- Re: [Extra] I-D Action: draft-ietf-extra-sieve-sp… Stephan Bosch
- Re: [Extra] I-D Action: draft-ietf-extra-sieve-sp… Bron Gondwana
- [Extra] SPECIAL-USE MAY appear in LIST responses … Ned Freed
- Re: [Extra] SPECIAL-USE MAY appear in LIST respon… Bron Gondwana
- Re: [Extra] I-D Action: draft-ietf-extra-sieve-sp… Chris Newman
- Re: [Extra] I-D Action: draft-ietf-extra-sieve-sp… Ned Freed
- Re: [Extra] I-D Action: draft-ietf-extra-sieve-sp… Chris Newman
- Re: [Extra] I-D Action: draft-ietf-extra-sieve-sp… Stephan Bosch
- Re: [Extra] I-D Action: draft-ietf-extra-sieve-sp… Stephan Bosch