Re: [Extra] imap4rev2: RFC8474 OBJECTID

"Chris Newman" <chris.newman@oracle.com> Tue, 20 November 2018 21:41 UTC

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From: "Chris Newman" <chris.newman@oracle.com>
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Subject: Re: [Extra] imap4rev2: RFC8474 OBJECTID
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We've implemented an extension equivalent to MAILBOXID already; no 
objections to that part. As THREADID is optional, no objections to that. 
We've not implemented EMAILID yet. I believe FETCH of EMAILID is 
reasonably straightforward, but SEARCH by EMAILID may add significant 
complexity, particularly with respect to search index version migration 
issues. As a result of the latter issue, it will be difficult for us to 
find cycles to implement and test OBJECTID, so I oppose mandatory 
inclusion of OBJECTID in IMAP4rev2.

		- Chris

On 8 Nov 2018, at 3:32, Bron Gondwana wrote:
> This is one of the open issues from imap4rev2 - which extensions 
> should be part of the mandatory baseline.
>
> In favour - it's very useful for client efficiency, and maps to very 
> popular Gmail extensions.
>
> Against - it's very new, and not widely implemented yet.
>
> Arguments for and against in response to this please.