Re: [Extra] SNIPPET (now PREVIEW) draft update
Timo Sirainen <tss@iki.fi> Thu, 08 November 2018 14:08 UTC
Return-Path: <tss@iki.fi>
X-Original-To: extra@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: extra@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A899B126CB6 for <extra@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 06:08:04 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.119
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.119 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0-T4xlxu5TCh for <extra@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 06:08:02 -0800 (PST)
Received: from tss.iki.fi (tss.iki.fi [94.237.26.55]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB81126BED for <extra@ietf.org>; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 06:08:02 -0800 (PST)
Received: from pear.dyn.dovecot.net (unknown [193.209.119.1]) by tss.iki.fi (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 495CC2B3CCA; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 14:08:01 +0000 (UTC)
From: Timo Sirainen <tss@iki.fi>
Message-Id: <39901AFF-A720-4251-873C-A9604B5B5154@iki.fi>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_4E223FDE-1728-4A08-9064-9D7CA909A038"
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\))
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2018 16:08:00 +0200
In-Reply-To: <c877cb70-125a-4494-8d42-56c91b6e0bc0@sloti7d1t02>
Cc: extra@ietf.org
To: Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmailteam.com>
References: <222011778.12006.1541435419815@appsuite.open-xchange.com> <c877cb70-125a-4494-8d42-56c91b6e0bc0@sloti7d1t02>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1)
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/extra/Xfd7d5j-gm22iFwQc_VUYD_swjQ>
Subject: Re: [Extra] SNIPPET (now PREVIEW) draft update
X-BeenThere: extra@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Email mailstore and eXtensions To Revise or Amend <extra.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/extra>, <mailto:extra-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/extra/>
List-Post: <mailto:extra@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:extra-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/extra>, <mailto:extra-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2018 14:08:05 -0000
Hmm. You're talking about octets and so far Dovecot (and Michael's draft) has been talking about characters. So with a maximum of 4 bytes per UTF-8 character and Dovecot's current 100 character limit, it could already be sending 400 octets.. We chose characters rather than octets because it makes more sense from the client's point of view to show approximately the same amount of text no matter what characters are being used. > On 8 Nov 2018, at 14.03, Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmailteam.com> wrote: > > Hi Michael, > > Thanks again for submitting this, and apologies that I haven't done a thorough review yet - it's on my todo list and I expect to do so soon. > > The ONLY remaining question was length. 200 is good, but JMAP says 255 and consistency will make it better. Unless you have a strong reason to lock it down to 200, would you consider changing it to "no more than 255 octets" with an understanding that there's no requirement that servers have to store that much, just that clients must be willing to accept that much. That will keep everything consistent. > > Other than this, we believe we're ready to take this document to working group last call, which I intend to do once I've heard back from you - it's easy to fix this up during last call. > > Thanks for your work and for getting us the update in time for this meeting. > > Cheers, > > Bron. > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018, at 03:30, Michael Slusarz wrote: >> I've submitted an update to the (formerly snippet, now) preview draft incorporating feedback received from this list and other implementers. >> >> Main change is the name - this is now "PREVIEW" instead of "SNIPPET". Also, increased recommended preview size to 200 characters (previously: 100). >> >> Will not be able to remotely join IETF 103 meeting as I am traveling, but wanted to make sure this draft was updated before then. >> >> michael >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Extra mailing list >> Extra@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/extra >> > > -- > Bron Gondwana, CEO, FastMail Pty Ltd > brong@fastmailteam.com <mailto:brong@fastmailteam.com> > > > _______________________________________________ > Extra mailing list > Extra@ietf.org <mailto:Extra@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/extra <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/extra>
- [Extra] SNIPPET (now PREVIEW) draft update Michael Slusarz
- Re: [Extra] SNIPPET (now PREVIEW) draft update Bron Gondwana
- Re: [Extra] SNIPPET (now PREVIEW) draft update Bron Gondwana
- Re: [Extra] SNIPPET (now PREVIEW) draft update Timo Sirainen
- Re: [Extra] SNIPPET (now PREVIEW) draft update Bron Gondwana
- Re: [Extra] SNIPPET (now PREVIEW) draft update Stuart Brandt
- Re: [Extra] SNIPPET (now PREVIEW) draft update Brandon Long
- Re: [Extra] SNIPPET (now PREVIEW) draft update Timo Sirainen
- Re: [Extra] SNIPPET (now PREVIEW) draft update Bron Gondwana
- Re: [Extra] SNIPPET (now PREVIEW) draft update Stuart Brandt
- Re: [Extra] SNIPPET (now PREVIEW) draft update Neil Jenkins