Re: [Extra] imap4rev2: RFC6851 MOVE

Arnt Gulbrandsen <arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no> Thu, 15 November 2018 21:41 UTC

Return-Path: <arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no>
X-Original-To: extra@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: extra@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76C1130DEC for <extra@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 13:41:51 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=gulbrandsen.priv.no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lZDnjgx3oB1L for <extra@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 13:41:49 -0800 (PST)
Received: from stabil.gulbrandsen.priv.no (stabil.gulbrandsen.priv.no [IPv6:2a01:4f8:191:91a8::3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 263CC12870E for <extra@ietf.org>; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 13:41:48 -0800 (PST)
Received: from stabil.gulbrandsen.priv.no (stabil.gulbrandsen.priv.no [IPv6:2a01:4f8:191:91a8::3]) by stabil.gulbrandsen.priv.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F507C001B; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 21:42:49 +0000 (GMT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gulbrandsen.priv.no; s=mail; t=1542318169; bh=aPb5ssXkf3BPpuwIH1iECEAV1OeVFhB0mDrkkYPMZKU=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=FP82k7fDOB/Mydsp2hhFuT1XYR8iP6LKZUGE9tfEfBHI8ghxOUOzudw3KtZtlGdlD Gjg/woIh2MgqXUwCpQ6lIX2vvNAZhJF+edmfxb9fWHLpAL7Nj13h1veTT0UJaMMgBa MT2+Nj48qUDxmktq2u2nFSFS2y/k0qqDKwUZyV4s=
Received: from arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no by stabil.gulbrandsen.priv.no (Archiveopteryx 3.2.0) with esmtpsa id 1542318168-32426-32424/9/246; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 21:42:48 +0000
From: Arnt Gulbrandsen <arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no>
To: extra@ietf.org
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 22:41:45 +0100
Mime-Version: 1.0
Message-Id: <d6481874-4613-4881-bc86-1c409bc43c59@gulbrandsen.priv.no>
In-Reply-To: <776977791.12860.1542298378436@appsuite.open-xchange.com>
References: <bf58fc05-b4f6-4078-a888-ddda75cce724@sloti7d1t02> <5BE4DB10.6090003@aol.com> <+zYCDTO4ZdsjSWin88IbqbIxTnobzOcvIPeIiYbAjBA=.sha-256@antelope.email> <776977791.12860.1542298378436@appsuite.open-xchange.com>
User-Agent: Trojita/0.7; Qt/5.3.2; xcb; Linux; Devuan GNU/Linux 1.0 (jessie)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/extra/dhG9wgh2ZzYACc2kji6XpF-uDEE>
Subject: Re: [Extra] imap4rev2: RFC6851 MOVE
X-BeenThere: extra@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Email mailstore and eXtensions To Revise or Amend <extra.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/extra>, <mailto:extra-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/extra/>
List-Post: <mailto:extra@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:extra-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/extra>, <mailto:extra-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 21:41:52 -0000

On Thursday 15 November 2018 17:12:58 CET, Michael Slusarz wrote:
> Playing devil's advocate... what were the reason(s) this wasn't 
> part of previous specs?

Mark hated the idea. I don't think anyone understood why.

As I recall, there had been nine other substantially similar proposals 
before the one I wrote, most or all from actual implementers. Some weren't 
competently designed and written, but nine is an amazingly large number for 
this kind of thing. There was no lack of demand for MOVE, just Mark's 
resistance.

Arnt