Re: [Extra] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-extra-imap4rev2-27: (with COMMENT)

Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> Mon, 08 February 2021 10:19 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Extra] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-extra-imap4rev2-27: (with COMMENT)
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Hi all,

On 04/02/2021 14:33, Barry Leiba wrote:
> Thanks, Ben, for the usual good comments.  Just responses on a couple here:
>
>> Section 2.2.1
>>
>>        response, and reads another response from the server.  In all
>>        cases, the client MUST send a complete command (including
>>        receiving all command continuation request responses and command
>>        continuations for the command) before initiating a new command.
>>
>> To check my understanding: the "command continuations for the command"
>> are things that the client sends, right?  Adding a word or two might
>> help clarify.
> Yes, it should say "and sending command continuations"; the word
> "sending" is missing.

Changed, thank you.

  [snip]
>> Section 2.3.2
>>
>>     $Junk  The user (or a delivery agent on behalf of the user) may
>>        choose to mark a message as definitely containing junk ($Junk; see
>>        also the related keyword $NotJunk).  The $Junk keyword can be used
>>        to mark (and potentially move/delete messages later), group or
>>        hide undesirable messages.  See [IMAP-KEYWORDS-REG] for more
>>        information.
>>
>> I'm not entirely sure what additional information I'm supposed to get
>> from [IMAP-KEYWORDS-REG]; the registry page is fairly short on
>> commentary.  (Applies throughout.)
> It's meant to send you to the reference doc, but, yes, the reader
> already has that anyway.  It might simply be better to say that the
> registration is recorded in IMAP-KEYWORDS-REG.

Actually, there is more information about $Junk in the registration 
template 
<https://www.iana.org/assignments/imap-jmap-keywords/junk/junk-template> 
referenced from the registry.

But I see your point and will adjust wording about these references 
where appropriate.

>> Section 6.4.8
>>
>>     Because of the similarity of MOVE to COPY, extensions that affect
>>     COPY affect MOVE in the same way.  Response codes listed in
>>     Section 7.1, as well as those defined by extensions, are sent as
>>     appropriate.
>>
>> Who decides what is "appropriate"?  Will everyone come to the same
>> conclusion?
> It means that the same responses are sent for MOVE as for COPY, under
> the corresponding conditions.
Indeed.
> Yes, we'd expect that to be evident.
> We can try rephrasing it if you think that's unclear.  Is what I said
> two sentences ago clearer?  Do you have other suggestions?
>
> Barry