Re: [Fecframe] AD question about IPRs on draft-ietf-fecframe-raptor-10

"Luby, Michael" <luby@qualcomm.com> Tue, 24 April 2012 17:28 UTC

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From: "Luby, Michael" <luby@qualcomm.com>
To: "Ali C. Begen (abegen)" <abegen@cisco.com>, Martin Stiemerling <martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu>, "fecframe@ietf.org" <fecframe@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Fecframe] AD question about IPRs on draft-ietf-fecframe-raptor-10
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Subject: Re: [Fecframe] AD question about IPRs on draft-ietf-fecframe-raptor-10
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Also, in the draft IESG writeup, it says:
 
	There has been controversy over this document. It represents WG consensus.
	IPR was declared, and announced in 2009
	http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/fecframe/current/msg00514.html
	and again in 2011
	http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/fecframe/current/msg00886.html.
	The WG didn't seem to care, and had no comments about the IPR.

I believe that the first sentence is a typo, I.e., it should say "There
has been no controversy over this document", as I don't remember any
controversy with this document.

Mike

On 4/24/12 8:15 AM, "Ali C. Begen (abegen)" <abegen@cisco.com>; wrote:

>FWIW, I don¹t have a particular problem with this IPR on Raptor drafts.
>Raptor is used in several places and I don¹t see why not we should
>document it properly within the FEC framework.
>
>-acbegen
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:fecframe-bounces@ietf.org] On
>>Behalf Of Martin Stiemerling
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:37 AM
>> To: fecframe@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [Fecframe] AD question about IPRs on
>>draft-ietf-fecframe-raptor-10
>> 
>> There has been no answer to my below question about what the WG's
>> opinion about the IPR disclosure is.
>> 
>> I read the silence as 'don not like' the IPR unless the WG speaks up and
>> tells me the opposite.
>> 
>> Please note that this draft is on the IESG telechat for this Thursday
>> (2012-04-26).
>> I guess the IESG will ask exactly my question and it would be good to
>> have a response from the WG.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>>    Martin -- your responsible Area Director
>> 
>> 
>> On 04/20/2012 02:33 PM, Martin Stiemerling wrote:
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > The draft-ietf-fecframe-raptor-10 is scheduled for the upcoming IESG
>> > telechat on April 26th.
>> >
>> > And as your new Area Director I have a question about the WG's view on
>> > the IPR. There are by today (April 20th) 4 IPR disclosures with
>>respect
>> > to this draft:
>> > 
>>https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=document_search&id_docume
>>nt_tag=draft-ietf-fecframe-raptor
>> >
>> >
>> > What is the opinion of the WG about those IPR disclosures? Is there
>>any
>> > disagreement to move the draft forward or are all fine with the
>>current
>> > state?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance,
>> >
>> > Martin
>> >
>> 
>> --
>> IETF Transport Area Director
>> 
>> martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu
>> 
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