Re: [Fecframe] IESG Eval followup: config-signaling anf rtp-raptor
"Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" <rajiva@cisco.com> Tue, 21 February 2012 22:45 UTC
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To: David Harrington <ietfdbh@comcast.net>, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com>, fecframe@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [Fecframe] IESG Eval followup: config-signaling anf rtp-raptor
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Hi David, I have updated the document in accordance with the comments received so far, and submitted the -07 version for us to make progress. 1. Adrian Farrel: Comment (2011-11-03)::= Updated the abstract and Introduction section. 2. Gonzalo Camarillo: Comment (2011-11-03)::= Removed the normative language. 3. Jari Arkko: Comment (2011-11-03) ::= Corrected the sections referencing and updated the Introduction 4. Ron Bonica: Discuss (2011-11-02) ::= Removed the reference to that expired draft. 5. Russ Housley: Comment (2011-11-03)::= All accepted. Updated the relevant text. 6. Stephen Farrell: Comment (2011-11-01::= Cryptography meant encryption. Removed it as well as GDOI, and mentioned PGP. 7. Wesley Eddy: Discuss (2011-10-26) ::= Changed to Informational. 8. Pete Resnick: Discuss (2011-11-02) ::= Changed to Informational. 9. Robert Sparks: Discuss (2011-11-02)::=1. Added a para in section 5.1 to clarify this. 2. Not a complete list. 10. Robert Sparks: Comment (2011-11-02)::= Changed to Informational. 11. Sean Turner: Discuss (2011-11-02)::= Yes. Added PGP preference. 12. Sean Turner: Comment (2011-11-02)::= Yes, meant to say encryption. Removed cryptography and references to GDOI altogether. Cheers, Rajiv > -----Original Message----- > From: David Harrington [mailto:ietfdbh@comcast.net] > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:38 AM > To: Rajiv Asati (rajiva); Greg Shepherd; fecframe@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Fecframe] IESG Eval followup: config-signaling anf rtp-raptor > > Hi Rajiv, > > Can you get a new revision published as Informational please? > > Here is an issue you really need to address in the document: > "To make this actionable I suggest you work out very clearly what the > purpose of > the document is and capture that both in the Abstract and the > Introduction. It > would also help if you clearly defined what *you* mean by a signaling > protocol > because people at different layers of the stack have very different > understandings of the term." > > There are a number of other discusses that need to be addressed. > > If you get a revision to me by the end of February, I can run it through > the system again and hopefully get it into the RFC Editor before I step > down as AD in March. You really don't want to start over with a new AD. > > Thanks, > > -- > David Harrington > Director, Transport Area > Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) > Ietfdbh@comcast.net > +1-603-828-1401 > > > > > > On 1/20/12 12:46 PM, "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" <rajiva@cisco.com> wrote: > > >Informational is fine. > > > >Cheers, > >Rajiv > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Greg Shepherd [mailto:gjshep@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 10:30 AM > >> To: Rajiv Asati (rajiva); fecframe@ietf.org > >> Subject: Fwd: IESG Eval followup: config-signaling anf rtp-raptor > >> > >> *, > >> > >> There are a few things holding up the config-sig draft, but the one we > >> need to help with is: > >> > >> MUST this doc progress as experimental, or is there WG consensus to > >> move it to informational? > >> > >> Please reply promptly to the list. > >> > >> Thanks!, > >> Greg > >> > >> > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> From: David Harrington <ietfdbh@comcast.net> > >> Date: Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 7:23 AM > >> Subject: IESG Eval followup: config-signaling anf rtp-raptor > >> To: gjshep@gmail.com > >> Cc: draft-ietf-fecframe-config-signaling@tools.ietf.org, > >> draft-ietf-fecframe-rtp-raptor@tools.ietf.org > >> > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> The IESG reviewed the config signaling and rtp-raptor drafts. > >> We have work to do. > >> > >> config-signaling: > >> 1) Can we publish this as Informational? > >> Is that a problem for any cross-SDO work? > >> If this is published as Informational, then compliance is no > >> longer appropriate - you don't comply to an Informational document. so > >> the RFC2119 keywords should disappear. > >> > >> 2) Ask the WG which version of GDOI is supposed to be used? See Sean's > >> Comments. > >> > >> 3) The document needs a good rewrite, especialy the Abstract and > >> Introduction. There are Discusses and Comments from many that the > >> document doesn't describe its purpose. This must be clairified. > >> > >> 4) There are Discusses and Comments from multiple ADs that must be > >> addressed: > >> Ron: just remove the reference; I don't know if you want to carry any > >> information from that expired mboned doc into this doc. > >> Adrian: clarify what is considered a signaling protocol in this doc > >> Gonzalo: no RFC2119 keywords in the Introduction (so normative text > >> must be moved) > >> Jari: internal references (are you using xml2rfc? they have ways to > >> keep that in sync for you) > >> clarify how you expect this to be used re: SDP, XML, etc. > >> Russ: Gen-ART review > >> Sean: "MAY encrypt" > >> MUST is for implementers - see RFC 3365 - unless this is > >> Informational. > >> GDOI - explain how to use this. Clarify which version. > >> Stephen: "MAY encrypt" => "SHOULD encrypt using PGP or CMS"? > >> GDOI - how to use to manage keys? > >> Pete: If Informational, then you can ignore his comment; If > >> Experimental, then describe the experiment. > >> Robert: new versus copied requirements; point to the existing rules > >> rather than copying them here. > >> The #2 comment is critical - are implementers supposed to > >> choose from one of these protocols > >> (i.e., these are the only ones allowed in a compliant > >> Experimental implementation?) > >> > >> rpt-raptor: > >> 1) A registration request must be sent to ietf-types@iana.org to > >> register the types, per section 5.1 of RFC 4288. The registration > >> template needs to be filled in > >> > >> 2) There are discusses from Sean, Pete, Robert and Stephen that must > >> be addressed, and Comments from Russ (the Gen-ART review) that should > >> be addressed in a Revised ID. I think the usage of RFC2119 keywords is > >> acceptable, but might be improved. Please read and **consider** Pete's > >> comments on RFC2119 usage, and then do what you think is right. > >> > >> Please get these Revised IDs done asap so I can send them off to the > >> RFC Editor. > >> > >> David Harrington > >> Director, IETF Transport Area > >> ietfdbh@comcast.net (preferred for ietf) > >> dbharrington@huaweisymantec.com > >> +1 603 828 1401 (cell) > >_______________________________________________ > >Fecframe mailing list > >Fecframe@ietf.org > >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe >
- [Fecframe] Fwd: IESG Eval followup: config-signal… Greg Shepherd
- Re: [Fecframe] Fwd: IESG Eval followup: config-si… Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [Fecframe] IESG Eval followup: config-signali… Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
- Re: [Fecframe] IESG Eval followup: config-signali… David Harrington
- Re: [Fecframe] IESG Eval followup: config-signali… Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
- Re: [Fecframe] IESG Eval followup: config-signali… David Harrington