Re: [Fecframe] I-D Action: draft-ietf-fecframe-ldpc-04.txt

Martin Stiemerling <martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu> Wed, 17 October 2012 15:12 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Fecframe] I-D Action: draft-ietf-fecframe-ldpc-04.txt
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Hi Michael and Vincent, all,

On 10/17/2012 03:41 PM, Luby, Michael wrote:
> Vincent, You are welcome.  Responses below. Best, Mike
>
> On 10/17/12 4:59 AM, "Vincent Roca" <vincent.roca@inria.fr>; wrote:
>
>> Mike,
>>
>> Thanks for your feedback.
[...]


>>
>>
>> More importantly. Since:
>>
>> 1- you noticed we impose restrictions on the way LDPC-Staircase
>> codes are being used in section 4.1;
>>
>> 2- you certainly remember the discussion we had in 2009 concerning
>> 10 out of the 13 patents mentioned in the RFC5170 IPR disclosure,
>> whose conclusion is here:
>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rmt/current/msg01384.html
>>
>> 3- the present I-D only considers LDPC-Staircase codes whereas
>> RFC5170 defines two FEC schemes;
>>
>> you will probably conclude like us that QC's IPR disclosure for
>> RFC5170 does not necessarily apply to this I-D. Hence our
>> question: does QC intend to do a new IPR disclosure? When?
>
> *** This specification inherits technology from RFC 5170, and we
> have made IPR declarations with regards to RFC 5170.  As far as I
> know, we do not plan to make any further IPR declarations on this
> specification.

My open points are addressed, i.e., my question of the IPR declarations
for RFC 5170 and any potential relationship to draft-ietf-fecframe-ldpc.

I will go forward with draft-ietf-fecframe-ldpc and ship it off to the
RFC editor.

Thank you!

   Martin

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