[Feeds] Re: Should we standardize on a single URL path to RSS feeds?
Teotime Pacreau <teotime.pac@outlook.fr> Mon, 16 December 2024 16:02 UTC
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Subject: [Feeds] Re: Should we standardize on a single URL path to RSS feeds?
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Hey Tim,Oh I'm not a part of the working group.Your question is precisely why I'm inquiring about it. I'd love to know what the recipients of this mailing list think about it, whether or not standardizing on a RSS feed path makes sense discussing in this group, or if the idea even makes sense at all. :)On Monday, December 16th, 2024 at 10:22 AM, tim rice <whoneedsgravity@gmail.com> wrote:
Morning Mark,Is this within the purview of the IETF, and does a similar standard for the other examples that you mentioned exist already?Thank you,-TimHey,My org works on providing RSS feeds for websites that don't have them. And we're seeing a lot of feed readers adopting the unfortunate practice of probing multiple paths to a website just to try to find if there's an RSS feed available (e.g. /rss, /.xm, /feed, etc). It hogs up quite a bit of unnecessary resources. It becomes an even harder hit for servers when all the requests happen at the exact same millisecond. :(We could benefit from standardizing on a single path so that feed readers can easily find a site's RSS feed. Kind of like the robots.txt file or the favicon.ico file. Everyone knows where they are.Has the working group ever discussed something like this? I'm curious of your thoughts.Thanks and hope your week is off to a great start!--
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- [Feeds] Re: Should we standardize on a single URL… tim rice
- [Feeds] Re: Should we standardize on a single URL… Mark
- [Feeds] Should we standardize on a single URL pat… Mark
- [Feeds] Re: Should we standardize on a single URL… Teotime Pacreau
- [Feeds] Re: Should we standardize on a single URL… Mark
- [Feeds] Re: Should we standardize on a single URL… Damon Hart-Davis
- [Feeds] Re: Should we standardize on a single URL… John Levine
- [Feeds] Re: Should we standardize on a single URL… Dan Wing
- [Feeds] Re: Should we standardize on a single URL… Rob Sayre
- [Feeds] Re: Should we standardize on a single URL… Steve
- [Feeds] Re: Should we standardize on a single URL… Martin J. Dürst
- [Feeds] Re: Should we standardize on a single URL… Mark
- [Feeds] Re: Should we standardize on a single URL… Martin J. Dürst
- [Feeds] Re: Should we standardize on a single URL… Mark
- [Feeds] Re: Should we standardize on a single URL… Martin J. Dürst
- [Feeds] Re: Should we standardize on a single URL… Jens Oliver Meiert
- [Feeds] Re: Should we standardize on a single URL… Martin J. Dürst
- [Feeds] Re: Should we standardize on a single URL… Jens Oliver Meiert