[Feeds] Re: Should we standardize on a single URL path to RSS feeds?
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From: Damon Hart-Davis <DamonHD@hotmail.com>
To: Mark <mark=40openrss.org@dmarc.ietf.org>
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Hi, Thought just to complicate things: what about sites with multiple distinct feeds? Maybe allow a feeds.xml or similar (cf robots.txt “Sitemap:”) at top-level to enumerate feeds. Rgds Damon On 16 Dec 2024, at 15:13, Mark <mark=40openrss.org@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: Hey, My org works on providing RSS feeds for websites that don't have them. And we're seeing a lot of feed readers adopting the unfortunate practice of probing multiple paths to a website just to try to find if there's an RSS feed available (e.g. /rss, /.xm, /feed, etc). It hogs up quite a bit of unnecessary resources. It becomes an even harder hit for servers when all the requests happen at the exact same millisecond. :( We could benefit from standardizing on a single path so that feed readers can easily find a site's RSS feed. Kind of like the robots.txt file or the favicon.ico file. Everyone knows where they are. Has the working group ever discussed something like this? I'm curious of your thoughts. Thanks and hope your week is off to a great start! Mark Kennedy Engineer openrss.org<https://openrss.org/> -- Feeds mailing list -- feeds@ietf.org To unsubscribe send an email to feeds-leave@ietf.org
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