[Feeds] Re: Should we standardize on a single URL path to RSS feeds?
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Subject: [Feeds] Re: Should we standardize on a single URL path to RSS feeds?
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Hello Jens, others, I think it shouldn't be too difficult to define that .well-known is a file where e.g. each line points to a feed. I'd suggest you look at the .well-known IANA registry and check out some of the registrations. You'll find ways to point to more than one resource easily. Regards, Martin. On 2024-12-27 21:00, Jens Oliver Meiert wrote: >> We could benefit from standardizing on a single path so that feed readers can easily find a site's RSS feed. > > Is some form of standardization being considered? > > One big challenge was mentioned but seems to add significant > complexity both in terms of standardization as well as communication: > There are plenty of cases where there isn’t just one feed (with > typical use cases being feeds for comments as well as individual > topics). Even if a standard is developed that allows for both > centralized (à la “.well-known”) and decentralized feed handling > (parallel to whatever resource they allow to syndicate), that seems a > distance away from “a single path” and still require a lot of appetite > to make site owners change their approach, plus trust that system so > as to not rely on metadata describing feed URLs anymore (and us > effectively ending up with two standards). > > -- > Jens Oliver Meiert > https://meiert.com/en/ · https://mas.to/@j9t > -- Prof. Dr.sc. Martin J. Dürst Department of Intelligent Information Technology College of Science and Engineering Aoyama Gakuin University Fuchinobe 5-1-10, Chuo-ku, Sagamihara 252-5258 Japan
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