[Forces-protocol] Re: 01-5

Jamal Hadi Salim <hadi@znyx.com> Mon, 25 October 2004 01:19 UTC

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Cc: "Khosravi, Hormuzd M" <hormuzd.m.khosravi@intel.com>, ram.gopal@nokia.com, "Wang, Weiming" <wmwang@mail.hzic.edu.cn>, forces-protocol@ietf.org, Ligang Dong <donglg@mail.hzic.edu.cn>, Robert Haas <rha@zurich.ibm.com>
Subject: [Forces-protocol] Re: 01-5
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On Sun, 2004-10-24 at 17:37, avri@psg.com wrote:
> On 24 okt 2004, at 13.42, Jamal Hadi Salim wrote:
> 
> >
> > I think people may be confused if you are actually following the
> > discussion (since you are unusually quiet) hence the comments you may
> > have seen.
> 
> for the most part i was fine with the conclusions folks were coming up 
> with.  in my attempt to reman as impartial in this group as possible, i 
> only get vocal when things really concern me.  in many cases, i saw a 
> lot of the disagreements as of the 6 of 1 and a 1.2 dozen of the other 
> variety, with either option being workable.  in those cases where i 
> thought it mattered, things went in a direction i was comfortable with, 
> so why say "me too".
> 

Understood.

> >
> > The path issue has been resolved; i think we may be just talking past
> > each other. The issue thats still open is the data packing.
> 
> can someone offer a note that expresses the still open conflict that 
> all parties can agree with? the one i put back does not really express 
> the still open issue as far as i can tell.
> 

In response to Weiming, I posted some text describing the path concept
but i am not sure where best that goes.
A path defines how to get to data being accessed; how that data gets
shipped around is still a question mark. There has been a proposal from
Steve/Zsolt which is insufficient to cover all known scenarios.
I think this needs to be discussed seriously in the meeting.

> >
> > The WG should see the draft after we are done i think. I wouldnt say we
> > are.
> 
> i tend to disagree with this.  now that this is a WG document, and the 
> WG is the owner of the doc, i believe they should have more frequent 
> snapshots and should be brought into the discussions.
> 
> but i defer to the team and the chairs on this issue.
> 

It is my opinion that sometimes it is easier to make progress with a
smaller team. I actually dont think Weiming and I are disagreeing with
each other for example; i just think we may be talking past each other.
It is clear that the issue of data packing is still open. I still wanna
hear from Weiming if he thinks the path issue is open - in which case we
would need to involve more people.  

> except that i am not seeing any edits from anyone.
> 
> 15 hours to go, and i plan to sleep some of them if at all possible.
> 
> i am currently working on a 00 - 01 change list appendix. which will 
> show up in 01-7.
> 

I think you should submit by 8am Eastern whatever verion you have then.

cheers,
jamal


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