[Forces-protocol] RE: Protocol presentation comments
"Khosravi, Hormuzd M" <hormuzd.m.khosravi@intel.com> Mon, 08 November 2004 18:27 UTC
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From: "Khosravi, Hormuzd M" <hormuzd.m.khosravi@intel.com>
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Cc: "(Ram Gopal )" <ram.gopal@nokia.com>, Weiming Wang <wmwang@mail.hzic.edu.cn>, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org>, forces-protocol@ietf.org, "Putzolu, David" <david.putzolu@intel.com>, Dong Ligang <donglg@mail.hzic.edu.cn>, Robert Haas <rha@zurich.ibm.com>
Subject: [Forces-protocol] RE: Protocol presentation comments
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Thanks Jamal. Yes absolutely, this is an Open resolvable issue. Thanks Hormuzd P.s. If possible, pls remove the LFB on the CE side as well in the picture. -----Original Message----- From: Jamal Hadi Salim [mailto:hadi@znyx.com] Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:10 PM To: Khosravi, Hormuzd M Cc: Robert Haas; Weiming Wang; Avri Doria; Dong Ligang; (Ram Gopal ); forces-protocol@ietf.org; Putzolu, David Subject: RE: Protocol presentation comments Hormuzd, Updated so it is not as strong as it was before. Easier for me to update as shown. Note a missing LFB on the FE side. Maybe i should also add it as a "resolvable open issue"? cheers, jamal PS:- One more update should be doable before presentation. So anyone who has/hasnt spoken, please speak up. On Sun, 2004-11-07 at 22:53, Khosravi, Hormuzd M wrote: > Thanks Jamal. > > One more comment on Slide 6, I think we were still going to discuss the > issue of "PL Termination always at LFB". Robert, you and myself had > discussed this in the last call and you were going to send out an email > to discuss this one further, since we did not have a consensus (you > might have logged it already in the issues, apologies if I missed your > email). Therefore, I would suggest to change that text to "PL Messages > always consists of header followed by LFB info" or "PL Messages > configure/control LFBs". You will also have to change the figure > accordingly. > > Other than this, this looks good. > > regards > Hormuzd > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jamal Hadi Salim [mailto:hadi@znyx.com] > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 5:51 PM > To: Khosravi, Hormuzd M > Cc: Robert Haas; Weiming Wang; Avri Doria; Dong Ligang; (Ram Gopal ); > forces-protocol@ietf.org; Putzolu, David > Subject: RE: Protocol presentation comments > > Ok, here goes. One more chance tommorow to cleanup. > Weiming, I did not try to attack the path issue - I will wait for your > response. Hopefully, you will say we are implying the same thing. > > cheers, > jamal > > On Sun, 2004-11-07 at 20:17, Khosravi, Hormuzd M wrote: > > Sounds good. Do send us a copy of your final slides. > > > > Thanks > > Hormuzd > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jamal Hadi Salim [mailto:hadi@znyx.com] > > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 3:48 AM > > To: Khosravi, Hormuzd M > > Cc: Robert Haas; Weiming Wang; Avri Doria; Dong Ligang; (Ram Gopal ); > > forces-protocol@ietf.org; Putzolu, David > > Subject: RE: Protocol presentation comments > > > > > > Hormuzd, > > Fair enough - I will remove details though i will still keep that > slide > > around to show progress in that arena. > > Note, DCCP in the case of audu-draft is only for packet redirect. > > > > cheers, > > jamal > > > > On Sun, 2004-11-07 at 13:24, Khosravi, Hormuzd M wrote: > > > Jamal, > > > > > > I was specifically talking about slide 5 in which you have mentioned > > > your opinions on what you think the drafts support..\.for e.g., I > > don't > > > think the Audu proposal is SCTP/UDP, from my reading it was > SCTP/DCCP > > > and my proposal is not Unicast only. We have never discussed any of > > > these proposals in the protocol team and neither have these > proposals > > > been presented at the IETF...dont you think its inappropriate for > > these > > > to be discussed in our presentation before the actual TML proposals > > are > > > presented? > > > > > > If you would just mention the proposals without getting into their > > > details, that would be fine. They will be presented at this meeting > in > > > any case. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Hormuzd > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jamal Hadi Salim [mailto:hadi@znyx.com] > > > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 11:25 PM > > > To: Khosravi, Hormuzd M > > > Cc: Robert Haas; Weiming Wang; Avri Doria; Dong Ligang; (Ram Gopal > ); > > > forces-protocol@ietf.org; Putzolu, David > > > Subject: Re: Protocol presentation comments > > > > > > Hormuzd, > > > > > > Can you point me to exactly what you dont like about the two slides > > > i put on the TML? > > > More importantly point me to my "opinions" on those two slides. > > > I will not remove the slides on TML - I think its a fundamental part > > of > > > ForCES. If you have something specific to point to, it would be > > valuable > > > to consider. > > > > > > cheers, > > > jamal > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2004-11-06 at 16:37, Khosravi, Hormuzd M wrote: > > > > Hi Jamal, > > > > > > > > I went thru the protocol presentation that you put together... > > > > > > > > One comment, you should not be presenting your opinions on the TML > > > > drafts which are being presented at this meeting. This is beyond > the > > > > scope of the protocol draft anyways, I am not sure why you have > > slides > > > > on this? But it would strongly recommend against this. I don't > > believe > > > > these have been discussed by the protocol team in emails or > > meetings. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Hormuzd > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jamal Hadi Salim [mailto:hadi@znyx.com] > > > > Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 4:25 PM > > > > To: Robert Haas > > > > Cc: Weiming Wang; Khosravi, Hormuzd M; Avri Doria; Dong Ligang; > (Ram > > > > Gopal ) > > > > Subject: Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the options > > > > forLFB-level multicast] > > > > > > > > Robert, > > > > I saw your presentation. Looks fine. Apologies, havent had time to > > > work > > > > on the protocol one. I am trying not to have too many slides. > > > > Heres a start that i will refine later. > > > > I was trying to build upto a point where i could explain the > > different > > > > views of "path" - I will still do that if theres > > > > a) view i should or b) time allows it > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > jamal > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Forces-protocol mailing list Forces-protocol@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/forces-protocol
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- [Forces-protocol] RE: Protocol presentation comme… Jamal Hadi Salim
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