Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ?
Jamal Hadi Salim <hadi@znyx.com> Sat, 16 October 2004 00:46 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ?
From: Jamal Hadi Salim <hadi@znyx.com>
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Cc: "Khosravi, Hormuzd M" <hormuzd.m.khosravi@intel.com>, zsolt@petri-meat.com, "Yang, Lily L" <lily.l.yang@intel.com>, Steve Blake <slblake@petri-meat.com>, ram.gopal@nokia.com, forces-protocol@ietf.org, Alan DeKok <alan.dekok@idt.com>, Ellen M Deleganes <ellen.m.deleganes@intel.com>
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Joel, We are sort of in a rush here to beat a deadline ;-> Give it to us in boolean logic please ;-> Did i read correctly that since we may have multiple operations (we have been discussing event un/subscribe as something that would appear as an operation for example) then the way to go forward is have GET as an operation? cheers, jamal On Fri, 2004-10-15 at 20:11, Joel M. Halpern wrote: > If we are sure that the only two operations we will ever need are GET and > SET, then we could probably simply declare that a message was either a GET > message or a SET message. > However, we have had suggestions of INSERT operations, and I would hate to > design the protocol so that we could not add other operations later. And > some combinations of operations may make sense together (insert item > A. Add reference to A in item B. Delete obsoleted item C.) > Thus, I tend to think that it makes sense to structure the protocol so that > a single emssage can carry multiple operations. > At the same time, as I said earlier, I would either prohibit or warn > against combining update and read operations in the same request. Requests > to read, for example to confirm the results of an update, ought to be sent > separately so that the FE does not need to worry about the order of > application. > > Yours, > Joel > > At 03:55 PM 10/15/2004 -0700, Khosravi, Hormuzd M wrote: > >No, I don't that's why I asked...since this was coming from Joel's > >proposal. > >I didn't get a good reason from his email either, but it seems like he > >would like to have it supported by the protocol anyway. > > > >Joel, do you have any examples for us ? > > > > > >Thanks > >Hormuzd > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Yang, Lily L > >Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 3:52 PM > >To: Khosravi, Hormuzd M; 'Joel M. Halpern'; 'zsolt@petri-meat.com'; > >'Steven Blake'; 'Alan DeKok'; Deleganes, Ellen M; 'ram.gopal@nokia.com' > >Cc: 'forces-protocol@ietf.org' > >Subject: RE: GET/SET in one msg ? > > > >I don't understand why you would want to do such a thing. Do you have > >any example in mind? > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Khosravi, Hormuzd M > > > Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 2:04 PM > > > To: Joel M. Halpern; zsolt@petri-meat.com; Steven Blake; > > > Yang, Lily L; Alan DeKok; Deleganes, Ellen M; ram.gopal@nokia.com > > > Cc: forces-protocol@ietf.org > > > Subject: GET/SET in one msg ? > > > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > > > We (protocol team) are finalizing some of the msgs and one of > > > the issues which is being discussed is whether GET/SET > > > operation need to be combined in a single msg...(currently we > > > have them as separate msgs). I have never seen this being > > > done in practice i.e. command bundling of GET/SET, but if you > > > guys have some experience/opinions on this, pls do let us know. > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot, > > > Hormuzd > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Forces-protocol mailing list > Forces-protocol@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/forces-protocol _______________________________________________ Forces-protocol mailing list Forces-protocol@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/forces-protocol
- [Forces-protocol] GET/SET in one msg ? Khosravi, Hormuzd M
- [Forces-protocol] Re: GET/SET in one msg ? Joel M. Halpern
- [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Yang, Lily L
- [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Khosravi, Hormuzd M
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Jamal Hadi Salim
- [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Joel M. Halpern
- [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Khosravi, Hormuzd M
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Joel M. Halpern
- RE: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Khosravi, Hormuzd M
- RE: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Deleganes, Ellen M
- RE: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Joel M. Halpern
- RE: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Steven Blake
- RE: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Khosravi, Hormuzd M
- RE: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Jamal Hadi Salim
- RE: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Jamal Hadi Salim
- RE: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Zsolt Haraszti
- RE: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Zsolt Haraszti
- RE: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Joel M. Halpern
- RE: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Jamal Hadi Salim
- RE: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Jamal Hadi Salim
- [2] RE: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Jamal Hadi Salim
- RE: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Jamal Hadi Salim
- RE: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Khosravi, Hormuzd M
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Weiming Wang
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Weiming Wang
- [Forces-protocol] Data encoding -- first part Zsolt Haraszti
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Steven Blake
- RE: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Zsolt Haraszti
- [Forces-protocol] Re: Data encoding -- first part Alan DeKok
- [Forces-protocol] Re: Data encoding -- first part Zsolt Haraszti
- [Forces-protocol] Re: Data encoding -- first part Joel M. Halpern
- [Forces-protocol] Re: Data encoding -- first part Alan DeKok
- [Forces-protocol] Re: Data encoding -- first part Zsolt Haraszti
- [Forces-protocol] Re: Data encoding -- first part Zsolt Haraszti
- [Forces-protocol] Re: Data encoding -- first part Joel M. Halpern
- [Forces-protocol] Re: Data encoding -- first part Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Jamal Hadi Salim
- [Forces-protocol] Re: Data encoding -- first part Zsolt Haraszti
- [Forces-protocol] Re: Data encoding -- first part Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Wang,Weiming
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Zsolt Haraszti
- RE: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Khosravi, Hormuzd M
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Wang,Weiming
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Wang,Weiming
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Joel M. Halpern
- [Forces-protocol] Re: Data encoding -- first part Alan DeKok
- [Forces-protocol] Re: Data encoding -- first part Alan DeKok
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Robert Haas
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Wang,Weiming
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Wang,Weiming
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Weiming Wang
- [Forces-protocol] Instance Select Wang,Weiming
- [Forces-protocol] Re: Instance Select Joel M. Halpern
- [Forces-protocol] Re: Instance Select Weiming Wang
- [Forces-protocol] Re: Instance Select Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Zsolt Haraszti
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Steven Blake
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Robert Haas
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Steven Blake
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Robert Haas
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Steven Blake
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Steven Blake
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Wang,Weiming
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Wang,Weiming
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Ligang Dong
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Ligang Dong
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Robert Haas
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Ligang Dong
- Re: [Forces-protocol] RE: GET/SET in one msg ? Jamal Hadi Salim