Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the options for LFB-level multicast]

Robert Haas <rha@zurich.ibm.com> Tue, 09 November 2004 20:45 UTC

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All,
I presented Weiming's slides just after Jamal's presentation yesterday. 
No divergence of views on the principle of how to describe paths was found.

Whereas, according to his slides, Weiming considers that the distinction 
of Attribute, field, and index, must be reflected in the path notation, 
the consensus in the room was that this is not necessary: a path could 
be x.y.z, where it is clear that x must be an attribute, and y and z can 
be field or index. No need to mention it explicitely in the path notation.

The path can be constructed with index-search or content-search. The 
consensus in the room was that the path should include the whole thing, 
not only the first attribute, as opposed to Weiming's suggestion on the 
last slide.

Content-search remains to be defined more precisely, as well as block 
access. So it is too early to disagree ;-)

Regards,
-Robert

Wang,Weiming wrote:

>Jamal,
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jamal Hadi Salim" <hadi@znyx.com>
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>>On Mon, 2004-11-08 at 00:12, Wang,Weiming wrote:
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>>>Jamal,
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Jamal Hadi Salim" <hadi@znyx.com>
>>>To: "Weiming Wang" <wmwang@mail.hzic.edu.cn>
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>>>>I still dont see what where we have differences. If Robert can see that
>>>>difference i think it would be worth presenting it.
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>>>Sorry, but I don't think it's very proper for you to try to stop an
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>>>presentation :)
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>>The first step is to understand what you are trying to show.
>>Look at how many emails it took for you to say "i see the difference".
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>Sorry, I know the difference very well, just can not see why you cannot catch
>it. That's just the 'i see the difference' mean.
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>Cheers,
>Weiming
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>>So i am not trying to stop your presentation rather trying to understand
>>what you are saying. Let me go back and read your other email now.
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>>cheers,
>>jamal
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>>PS:- Everyone i have talked to here upto before i went to bed did not
>>see any difference. This includes Robert.
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