Re: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the options for LFB-level multicast]
"Weiming Wang" <wmwang@mail.hzic.edu.cn> Sat, 06 November 2004 13:43 UTC
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From: Weiming Wang <wmwang@mail.hzic.edu.cn>
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Subject: Re: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the options for LFB-level multicast]
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Hi Robert, Just one tiny point. I still cannot see the vital difference between the Merged mcast and Split mcast. Do you mean the main difference is the Merged mcast is for LFB class mcast while the Split mcast is for LFB Instance ID mcast only? If possible, I think adding some more to explain (or define) the m1 and i1 may help more or less, especially to indicate if m1 is for LFB class and LFB instance, while il is only for LFB instance IDs. Cheers, Weiming ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Haas Hi All, I haven't seen any message on ForCES in the last 2 days, so I smell sth fishy. I post again my presentation here. Cheers, -Robert -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the options for LFB-level multicast Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 22:12:20 +0100 From: Robert Haas <rha@zurich.ibm.com> Organization: IBM Research Lab To: <forces-protocol@ietf.org> <forces-protocol@ietf.org> All, Attached is a short presentation for the next IETF that summarizes the three options for LFB-level multicast: - merged (among the current proposal in the draft), - split (among the current proposals in the draft, called VPN, and Zsolt's proposal), - xcat (Weiming's proposal). Also, there is a slide with the issue Jamal raised about unnecessarily repeating the class ID for commands destined to LFBs of the same class. Personally, I think the overhead is minimal. Maybe your view is different ? Please review the slides and let me know if you have comments/suggestions. Depending on the chosen solution(s), we may have to define a TLV for the LFB Instance ID, as this can be a normal ID, a virtual ID (MIID), a list, or a range. Regards, -- Robert Haas IBM Zurich Research Laboratory Säumerstrasse 4 CH-8803 Rüschlikon/Switzerland phone +41-1-724-8698 fax +41-1-724-8578 http://www.zurich.ibm.com/~rha -- Robert Haas IBM Zurich Research Laboratory Säumerstrasse 4 CH-8803 Rüschlikon/Switzerland phone +41-1-724-8698 fax +41-1-724-8578 http://www.zurich.ibm.com/~rha ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Forces-protocol mailing list Forces-protocol@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/forces-protocol
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- Re: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the options… Weiming Wang
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Weiming Wang
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Weiming Wang
- Re: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the options… Robert Haas
- Re: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the options… Weiming Wang
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Weiming Wang
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Robert Haas
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of theop… Weiming Wang
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- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of theop… Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation oftheopt… Wang,Weiming
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- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation oftheopt… Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentationoftheopti… Wang,Weiming
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- [Forces-protocol] protcol slides Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Robert Haas
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Wang,Weiming
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Jamal Hadi Salim
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- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Robert Haas
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Wang,Weiming
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- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Jamal Hadi Salim
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- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Wang,Weiming
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Joel M. Halpern
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- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Weiming Wang
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Weiming Wang
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Joel M. Halpern
- [Forces-protocol] Data Encoding Weiming Wang
- Re: [Forces-protocol] Data Encoding Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Forces-protocol] Data Encoding Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Forces-protocol] Data Encoding Weiming Wang
- Re: [Forces-protocol] Data Encoding Weiming Wang
- Re: [Forces-protocol] Data Encoding Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Forces-protocol] Data Encoding Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Forces-protocol] Data Encoding Wang,Weiming
- Re: [Forces-protocol] Data Encoding Jamal Hadi Salim