[Forces-protocol] RE: Protocol presentation comments

Jamal Hadi Salim <hadi@znyx.com> Mon, 08 November 2004 02:19 UTC

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Subject: [Forces-protocol] RE: Protocol presentation comments
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Ok, here goes. One more chance tommorow to cleanup.
Weiming, I did not try to attack the path issue - I will wait for your
response. Hopefully, you will say we are implying the same thing.

cheers,
jamal

On Sun, 2004-11-07 at 20:17, Khosravi, Hormuzd M wrote:
> Sounds good. Do send us a copy of your final slides.
> 
> Thanks
> Hormuzd
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jamal Hadi Salim [mailto:hadi@znyx.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 3:48 AM
> To: Khosravi, Hormuzd M
> Cc: Robert Haas; Weiming Wang; Avri Doria; Dong Ligang; (Ram Gopal );
> forces-protocol@ietf.org; Putzolu, David
> Subject: RE: Protocol presentation comments
> 
> 
> Hormuzd,
> Fair enough - I will remove details though i will still keep that slide
> around to show progress in that arena.
> Note, DCCP in the case of audu-draft is only for packet redirect.
> 
> cheers,
> jamal
> 
> On Sun, 2004-11-07 at 13:24, Khosravi, Hormuzd M wrote:
> > Jamal,
> > 
> > I was specifically talking about slide 5 in which you have mentioned
> > your opinions on what you think the drafts support..\.for e.g., I
> don't
> > think the Audu proposal is SCTP/UDP, from my reading it was SCTP/DCCP
> > and my proposal is not Unicast only. We have never discussed any of
> > these proposals in the protocol team and neither have these proposals
> > been presented at the IETF...dont you think its inappropriate for
> these
> > to be discussed in our presentation before the actual TML proposals
> are
> > presented?
> > 
> > If you would just mention the proposals without getting into their
> > details, that would be fine. They will be presented at this meeting in
> > any case.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Hormuzd
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jamal Hadi Salim [mailto:hadi@znyx.com] 
> > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 11:25 PM
> > To: Khosravi, Hormuzd M
> > Cc: Robert Haas; Weiming Wang; Avri Doria; Dong Ligang; (Ram Gopal );
> > forces-protocol@ietf.org; Putzolu, David
> > Subject: Re: Protocol presentation comments
> > 
> > Hormuzd,
> > 
> > Can you point me to exactly what you dont like about the two slides
> > i put on the TML?
> > More importantly point me to my "opinions" on those two slides.
> > I will not remove the slides on TML - I think its a fundamental part
> of
> > ForCES. If you have something specific to point to, it would be
> valuable
> > to consider.
> > 
> > cheers,
> > jamal
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, 2004-11-06 at 16:37, Khosravi, Hormuzd M wrote:
> > > Hi Jamal,
> > > 
> > > I went thru the protocol presentation that you put together...
> > > 
> > > One comment, you should not be presenting your opinions on the TML
> > > drafts which are being presented at this meeting. This is beyond the
> > > scope of the protocol draft anyways, I am not sure why you have
> slides
> > > on this? But it would strongly recommend against this. I don't
> believe
> > > these have been discussed by the protocol team in emails or
> meetings.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > Hormuzd
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jamal Hadi Salim [mailto:hadi@znyx.com] 
> > > Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 4:25 PM
> > > To: Robert Haas
> > > Cc: Weiming Wang; Khosravi, Hormuzd M; Avri Doria; Dong Ligang; (Ram
> > > Gopal )
> > > Subject: Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the options
> > > forLFB-level multicast]
> > > 
> > > Robert,
> > > I saw your presentation. Looks fine. Apologies, havent had time to
> > work
> > > on the protocol one. I am trying not to have too many slides.
> > > Heres a start that i will refine later. 
> > > I was trying to build upto a point where i could explain the
> different
> > > views of "path" - I will still do that if theres 
> > > a) view i should  or b) time allows it
> > > 
> > > cheers,
> > > jamal
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
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