Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the options for LFB-level multicast]
Jamal Hadi Salim <hadi@znyx.com> Wed, 10 November 2004 15:53 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the options for LFB-level multicast]
From: Jamal Hadi Salim <hadi@znyx.com>
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Hi Weiming, I am not sure if this is what you are saying all along, but i think it may be valuable to have "relative" path encoding. i.e you say parent-path=1,2,3,4 then everything else is relative to that. Example if you say 5 afterwards for relative path, then the full path is: 1,2,3,4,5. I still dont think that "5" should be in the data portion though. cheers, jamal On Tue, 2004-11-09 at 22:33, Wang,Weiming wrote: > Hi Robert, > > Thank you very much to bring the slides to the meeting. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Robert Haas > Subject: Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the > options for LFB-level multicast] > > All, > I presented Weiming's slides just after Jamal's presentation > yesterday. No divergence of views on the principle of how to > describe paths was found. > > Whereas, according to his slides, Weiming considers that the > distinction of Attribute, field, and index, must be reflected > in the path notation, the consensus in the room was that this > is not necessary: a path could be x.y.z, where it is clear > that x must be an attribute, and y and z can be field or > index. No need to mention it explicitely in the path notation. > [Weiming] Actually this is not the key point. While I'm just a > little afraid it may lead to ambiguity if , e.g., z can be a > field ID or a subscript without tag to indicate it. > The path can be constructed with index-search or > content-search. The consensus in the room was that the path > should include the whole thing, not only the first attribute, > as opposed to Weiming's suggestion on the last slide. > [Weiming]This is really the key point. We need to verify if it > is possible for a single 'path' format to describe all need > for path. I just think that, apart from the attribute ID part, > others are tightly combined with Data. We may feel difficulty > to try to separate path explicitly. > Content-search remains to be defined more precisely, as well > as block access. So it is too early to disagree ;-) > > Regards, > -Robert > > Thank you again. > Weiming > Wang,Weiming wrote: > > > Jamal, > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jamal Hadi Salim" <hadi@znyx.com> > > > > > > > On Mon, 2004-11-08 at 00:12, Wang,Weiming wrote: > > > > > > > Jamal, > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Jamal Hadi Salim" <hadi@znyx.com> > > > > To: "Weiming Wang" <wmwang@mail.hzic.edu.cn> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I still dont see what where we have differences. If Robert can see that > > > > > difference i think it would be worth presenting it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, but I don't think it's very proper for you to try to stop an > > > > > > > > individual > > > > > > presentation :) > > > > > > > > > > The first step is to understand what you are trying to show. > > > Look at how many emails it took for you to say "i see the difference". > > > > > > > Sorry, I know the difference very well, just can not see why you cannot catch > > it. That's just the 'i see the difference' mean. > > > > Cheers, > > Weiming > > > > > > > So i am not trying to stop your presentation rather trying to understand > > > what you are saying. Let me go back and read your other email now. > > > > > > cheers, > > > jamal > > > > > > PS:- Everyone i have talked to here upto before i went to bed did not > > > see any difference. This includes Robert. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Robert Haas > IBM Zurich Research Laboratory > Säumerstrasse 4 > CH-8803 Rüschlikon/Switzerland > phone +41-1-724-8698 fax +41-1-724-8578 http://www.zurich.ibm.com/~rha > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Forces-protocol mailing list > Forces-protocol@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/forces-protocol
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- Re: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the options… Weiming Wang
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Weiming Wang
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Weiming Wang
- Re: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the options… Robert Haas
- Re: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the options… Weiming Wang
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Weiming Wang
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Robert Haas
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of theop… Weiming Wang
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of theop… Weiming Wang
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of theop… Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation oftheopt… Wang,Weiming
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation oftheopt… Wang,Weiming
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation oftheopt… Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentationoftheopti… Wang,Weiming
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation oftheopt… Jamal Hadi Salim
- [Forces-protocol] protcol slides Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Robert Haas
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Wang,Weiming
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Wang,Weiming
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Robert Haas
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Wang,Weiming
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Wang,Weiming
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Wang,Weiming
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Wang,Weiming
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Weiming Wang
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Weiming Wang
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Fwd: [Forces-protocol] Presentation of the o… Joel M. Halpern
- [Forces-protocol] Data Encoding Weiming Wang
- Re: [Forces-protocol] Data Encoding Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Forces-protocol] Data Encoding Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Forces-protocol] Data Encoding Weiming Wang
- Re: [Forces-protocol] Data Encoding Weiming Wang
- Re: [Forces-protocol] Data Encoding Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Forces-protocol] Data Encoding Jamal Hadi Salim
- Re: [Forces-protocol] Data Encoding Wang,Weiming
- Re: [Forces-protocol] Data Encoding Jamal Hadi Salim