Re: [ftpext] [BEHAVE] FTP64 LANGuage [was RE: one week WGLC, draft-ietf-behave-ftp64-05]
Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com> Thu, 06 January 2011 01:55 UTC
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From: Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com>
To: Dan Wing <dwing@cisco.com>, 'Iljitsch van Beijnum' <iljitsch@muada.com>
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Subject: Re: [ftpext] [BEHAVE] FTP64 LANGuage [was RE: one week WGLC, draft-ietf-behave-ftp64-05]
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> -----Original Message----- > From: behave-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:behave-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Dan Wing > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 3:43 PM > To: 'Iljitsch van Beijnum'; Dave Thaler > Cc: draft-ietf-behave-ftp64@tools.ietf.org; ftpext@ietf.org; 'Behave WG' > Subject: Re: [BEHAVE] FTP64 LANGuage [was RE: one week WGLC, draft-ietf- > behave-ftp64-05] > > > On 5 jan. 2011, at 17:11, Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com> wrote: > > > > > > And I agree with Iljitsch's > > implication that the recommendation for FTP64 ALGs should be the > same > > as whatever the recommendation for other FTP ALGs (e.g. in > > NAT44's) is. > > > > Failing to quit while I'm ahead... > > > > Are there any FTP44 ALG recommendations? > > I am only aware of > http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3027#section-4.1 In the interest of making progress on FTP64... Given that the LANG/FEAT problem is not specific to FTP64 but applies to 44 ALGs (or any other type of FTP ALG for that matter), I think this problem is probably best addressed outside of the FTP64 spec itself, and if an answer existed in another doc, the FTP64 spec would just refer to it. As such, I think I am ok with not solving the problem in the FTP64 spec, and leaving it for future work. However, I would like to see a note to that effect added to FTP64. In other words, I can live with it being unspecified in FTP64 as long as FTP64 calls out the issue and says it's left for future work and points out that it's not specific to a 64 case. While that may result in bad behavior, it's no worse than the situation we're already in today where LANG behavior is somewhere between broken and "unexpected". In my opinion, the FTPEXT group should then decide what it wants to do about LANG (rev RFC 2640 or ignore the problem or whatever else). -Dave
- [ftpext] Fwd: [BEHAVE] one week WGLC, draft-ietf-… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [ftpext] [BEHAVE] one week WGLC, draft-ietf-b… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [ftpext] [BEHAVE] one week WGLC, draft-ietf-b… Dave Thaler
- Re: [ftpext] [BEHAVE] one week WGLC, draft-ietf-b… Dave Thaler
- Re: [ftpext] [BEHAVE] one week WGLC, draft-ietf-b… Dan Wing
- Re: [ftpext] [BEHAVE] one week WGLC, draft-ietf-b… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [ftpext] [BEHAVE] one week WGLC, draft-ietf-b… Dan Wing
- Re: [ftpext] [BEHAVE] one week WGLC, draft-ietf-b… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- [ftpext] FTP64 LANGuage [was RE: [BEHAVE] one wee… Dan Wing
- Re: [ftpext] FTP64 LANGuage [was RE: [BEHAVE] one… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [ftpext] FTP64 LANGuage [was RE: [BEHAVE] one… Dave Thaler
- Re: [ftpext] [BEHAVE] FTP64 LANGuage [was RE: one… Fred Baker
- Re: [ftpext] FTP64 LANGuage [was RE: [BEHAVE] one… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [ftpext] FTP64 LANGuage [was RE: [BEHAVE] one… Dan Wing
- Re: [ftpext] [BEHAVE] FTP64 LANGuage [was RE: one… Dave Thaler