Return-Path: X-Original-To: ftpext@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ftpext@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46DA3A68B7; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 13:41:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8OyXFcjZ5mXP; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 13:40:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from sequoia.muada.com (unknown [IPv6:2001:1af8:2:5::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B17343A6895; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 13:40:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.195] (static-167-138-7-89.ipcom.comunitel.net [89.7.138.167] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by sequoia.muada.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id oBNLgpE5073861 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 23 Dec 2010 22:42:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from iljitsch@muada.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Iljitsch van Beijnum In-Reply-To: <04a401cba2ce$fdba5180$f92ef480$@com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 22:42:48 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <0cac01cb58ea$32d19a60$9874cf20$@com> <9B57C850BB53634CACEC56EF4853FF65343005F2@TK5EX14MBXW601.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com> <9B57C850BB53634CACEC56EF4853FF653447D195@TK5EX14MBXW604.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com> <9B57C850BB53634CACEC56EF4853FF653447ECAF@TK5EX14MBXW604.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com> <8B73074C-5B7E-425F-B8B2-C28757FB7CD6@muada.com> <9B57C850BB53634CACEC56EF4853FF653447F40D@TK5EX14MBXW604.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com> <9B57C850BB53634CACEC56EF4853FF653447F599@TK5EX14MBXW604.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com> <049901cba2cc$238f67e0$6aae37a0$@com> <101F87C4-F714-48C2-852A-67332B712DD1@muada.com> <04a401cba2ce$fdba5180$f92ef480$@com> To: Dan Wing X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: draft-ietf-behave-ftp64@tools.ietf.org, ftpext@ietf.org, 'Behave WG' , 'Dave Thaler' Subject: Re: [ftpext] [BEHAVE] one week WGLC, draft-ietf-behave-ftp64-05 X-BeenThere: ftpext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 21:41:35 -0000 On 23 dec 2010, at 19:27, Dan Wing wrote: >> But how does making the server use the default language make the = user's >> experience any better? > The user might have to read something in the FTP server's default > language, but it will be ASCII. That's better than the FTP client > potentially throwing an error. Dave mentioned the client potentially crashing. I don't buy that. An FTP = client can obviously handle ASCII if the desired LANG is not supported, = so then it's going to crash when it sees the same characters when = another language is negotiated but it otherwise sees the same text. It's = not like 7-bit ASCII characters never occur in languages that use other = scripts. Maybe at this point in the discussion it would be good to hear from = implementers. There are already tons of NAT44 FTP ALGs out there, I = wonder how those solve this.=