Re: [Fud] Editorial Charter Update
Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net> Wed, 04 October 2017 13:54 UTC
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To: Chris Rouland <chris@phosphorus.io>, fud@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [Fud] Editorial Charter Update
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Hi Chris, my intention is to describe a reasonable starting point that helps solve a security problem in the IoT world. You have to start somewhere and I am sure there is more work to be done and charters can be extended over time as progress is being made. Furthermore, nothing is saying at the work will not be useful for other areas as well but it should at least define the core problem. I hope my clarification makes sense. Ciao Hannes On 10/01/2017 04:11 PM, Chris Rouland wrote: > > Hi, > > I do think that locking into the firmware binary itself could exclude a > significant part of the problem set around updating embedded IOT > operating systems that would not technically be classified as FW. > > I think SUIT is good and broad. > > > -Chris > > >> On Oct 1, 2017, at 3:20 AM, Emmanuel Baccelli >> <Emmanuel.Baccelli@inria.fr <mailto:Emmanuel.Baccelli@inria.fr>> wrote: >> >> Hi Hannes, >> >> thanks for the update. Reads well in my opinion. >> A couple of comments below: >> >> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Hannes Tschofenig >> <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net <mailto:hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net>> wrote: >> >> >> >> Firmware Updating Description (FUD) >> [Alternative proposal: SUIT (Software Updates for Internet of >> Things).] >> >> >> To no surprise, I really like SUIT, but if the WG focuses only on >> firmware and excludes other types of software updates, we should >> probably keep that name for another working group ;) >> >> On the other hand, FUD is still a problematic name. How about an >> alternative such as: >> >> FiDeL : Firmware Description for Low-end IoT devices >> >> >> out of scope are >> software update solutions that aim to take the features of scripting >> languages, such as JavaScript variants like JerryScript, into account. >> >> >> FYI JerryScript is fully compliant with ECMA5.1, hence not really a >> "variant". >> Here, I don't think we need to be that precise anyway to get the >> message across. >> How about rephrasing with something like: >> >> "Software update solutions that target updating software other than >> the firmware binary (e.g. updating scripts) are out of scope". >> >> Cheers >> >> Emmanuel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fud mailing list >> Fud@ietf.org <mailto:Fud@ietf.org> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fud > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fud mailing list > Fud@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fud >
- Re: [Fud] Editorial Charter Update Russ Housley
- Re: [Fud] Editorial Charter Update Emmanuel Baccelli
- Re: [Fud] Editorial Charter Update Chris Rouland
- [Fud] Editorial Charter Update Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Fud] Editorial Charter Update Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Fud] Editorial Charter Update Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Fud] Editorial Charter Update Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Fud] Editorial Charter Update Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Fud] Editorial Charter Update Hannes Tschofenig