Re: [fun] [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal

[Doug Barton <[e-mail]>]

On 07/01/2011 14:17, Keith Moore wrote:
> On Jul 1, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Doug Barton wrote:
>
>> On 07/01/2011 13:03, Kenneth Voort wrote:
>>> I would also add that future IPv6 capable devices should allow
>>> end users to reach the IPv6 Internet from an IPv4-only provider
>>> through some means, perhaps tunneling, with no or minimal
>>> administrator intervention. I can see many providers remaining
>>> IPv4-only long into the future.
>>
>> This is an area that we very clearly do not need to get involved in
>> because it will solve itself due to market forces. Right now there
>> is no IPv6-only content that anyone cares about. When that changes,
>> users will start demanding that their provider give them access to
>> it, or vote with their feet.
>
> Whenever people talk about the Internet as if it were just about
> "access to content", I have to wonder.    The Internet has always
> been more about conversation than content.

The overwhelming majority of Internet users are consumers of content. 
Some of that content is stuff like Skype, instant messaging, etc.

The overwhelming majority of businesses that make the Internet work are 
the content providers, and the ISPs that enable the consumers of that 
content to reach it.

Failure to recognize these 2 critical facts leads to producing standards 
documents that have no relevance in the real world.

>> To summarize my main point once again, there is nothing for the
>> IETF to do here, the problem will take care of itself.
>
> Quite the contrary.  We still don't have a good transition mechanism
> that HOMENET could specify.

And as I pointed out in the bits of my message that you snipped, we 
don't need one.


Doug

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