Re: [gaia] What if all phones were always on the Internet?
Dirk Kutscher <Dirk.Kutscher@neclab.eu> Wed, 02 December 2015 13:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: [gaia] What if all phones were always on the Internet?
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There is a public consultation on the EU 5GPPP phase 2 planning: http://networld2020.eu/ If you are interested in seeing more opportunities for GAIA topics, try to review this and provide your comments. Cheers, Dirk > -----Original Message----- > From: gaia [mailto:gaia-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of Dirk Kutscher > Sent: Freitag, 27. November 2015 09:51 > To: Stephen Farrell; Jim Forster > Cc: gaia; Steve Song > Subject: Re: [gaia] What if all phones were always on the Internet? > > > How would that best be progressed? I think there are good ideas here > > (adding delay-tolerant features to mainstream protocols) but I'm not > > sure how to get those ingrained in e.g. 5g stuff. > > In Europe, review and have your say on what's happening here: https://5g- > ppp.eu/ > > There is a second phase of projects in preparation -- that should ideally cater for > topics like this, but people need to speak up. > > Technically, I think that ICN as a concept has good potential as a network > infrastructure technology that can span both well-connected traditional type of > networks as well as less conventional ones, including uni-directional and > disruption-prone networks. > > One of the keywords is access network heterogeneity, e.g., "hybrid access" in > the current IP access world. It's obvious that TCP/IP (even MPTCP) with > DNS/CDN has issues in even the simple hybrid access home gateway scenario. > > Another keyword is transport performance (related to the transport encryption > discussion): with heterogeneous access, and especially with low-bitrate, > unreliable secondary access, you want to have a more powerful forwarding > plane that can react to changing link layer characteristics locally and that can > employ in-network storage for reacting to disruption/delay. Today, mobile > network operators are trying to address some of these issues with TCP proxies > and application-layer proxies (the latter will probably become more expensive in > the future because of encryption, see below). > > Finally, security: I see two things happening: > > 1) HTTP/2 and TLS => ubiquitous encryption > 2) CDN extending into core and access networks => many vulnerable platforms > that manage keys and certificates on behalf of original data owners and service > providers to maintain connection-based encryption > > This does not look very promising to me. We ought to figure object-based > security and fine-granular access control based on that. > > With virtualization extending to all parts of the network, it now becomes > feasible to prototype and evaluate such systems, e.g., as a slice in a virtualized > mobile network. > > There is some interesting work going on, just a few pointers: > > http://conferences2.sigcomm.org/acm-icn/2015/proceedings/p189-auge.pdf > > http://conferences2.sigcomm.org/acm-icn/2015/proceedings/p137- > schneider.pdf > > http://conferences2.sigcomm.org/acm-icn/2015/proceedings/p177-yu.pdf > > > Cheers, > Dirk > _______________________________________________ > gaia mailing list > gaia@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/gaia
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