Re: [gaia] controversial paper for CNs

Arjuna Sathiaseelan <arjuna.sathiaseelan@cl.cam.ac.uk> Tue, 22 December 2015 07:07 UTC

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Thanks Roger -

In a recent call with Steve Song and Jane Coffin we were discussing why
Guifi was successful and Steve nicely mentioned the social
structures/community cohesion are very important and Jane Coffin pointed
out about Guifi's business models.

Was wondering if technological innovation in Guifi had a role to play with
too?

regards

On 18 December 2015 at 13:00, Roger Baig Viñas <roger.baig@guifi.net> wrote:

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> Hi Arjuna,
>
> On 12/17/2015 03:00 AM, Arjuna Sathiaseelan wrote:
> > thought I will ignite some discussions on this paper which I think
> > makes some controversial claims on the role mesh networks for
> > enabling connectivity especially with the success of CNs around the
> > globe: http://www.jwcn.eurasipjournals.com/content/2008/1/274790
> >
> > they state: "Our conclusions are intentionally controversial to
> > stimulate a discussion among researchers and industry. We argue
> > that wireless mesh networks will not be deployed for user access—at
> > least from an economic point of view. Instead, they will be
> > financed to increase the automation of remotely controlled devices,
> > such as meters for gas or heating, parking meters, and traffic
> > lights, whereas the financial contributions of users will be
> > dismal."
> >
> > if the authors revisited this paper now - what would change?
> >
> > Looking forward to hear from the community network folks :)
>
> At least I would suggest to:
>
> 1) Include the consideration of the effect of the
> introduction of wired-links, at least in the backbone. Our vision
> is to have three of four wireless hops at most everywhere.
>
> 2) Avoid the idea of a totally unplanned network made out of ultra-cheap
> devices. Obviously the performance of a WiFi 10€ router should not be
> comparable to a >1000€ wired router.
>
> 3) Include the social economics in the economics section (otherwise
> you will observe inexplicable behaviours).
>
> Best regards.
>
> >
> > regards
> >
> > -- Arjuna Sathiaseelan Personal: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~as2330/
> > N4D Lab: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~as2330/n4d
> >
> >
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>
> - --
> Roger Baig Viñas
> Fundació Privada per a la Xarxa Oberta, Lliure i Neutral guifi.net
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Arjuna Sathiaseelan
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