Re: [gaia] controversial paper for CNs
Arjuna Sathiaseelan <arjuna.sathiaseelan@cl.cam.ac.uk> Tue, 22 December 2015 07:07 UTC
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Subject: Re: [gaia] controversial paper for CNs
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Thanks Roger - In a recent call with Steve Song and Jane Coffin we were discussing why Guifi was successful and Steve nicely mentioned the social structures/community cohesion are very important and Jane Coffin pointed out about Guifi's business models. Was wondering if technological innovation in Guifi had a role to play with too? regards On 18 December 2015 at 13:00, Roger Baig Viñas <roger.baig@guifi.net> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi Arjuna, > > On 12/17/2015 03:00 AM, Arjuna Sathiaseelan wrote: > > thought I will ignite some discussions on this paper which I think > > makes some controversial claims on the role mesh networks for > > enabling connectivity especially with the success of CNs around the > > globe: http://www.jwcn.eurasipjournals.com/content/2008/1/274790 > > > > they state: "Our conclusions are intentionally controversial to > > stimulate a discussion among researchers and industry. We argue > > that wireless mesh networks will not be deployed for user access—at > > least from an economic point of view. Instead, they will be > > financed to increase the automation of remotely controlled devices, > > such as meters for gas or heating, parking meters, and traffic > > lights, whereas the financial contributions of users will be > > dismal." > > > > if the authors revisited this paper now - what would change? > > > > Looking forward to hear from the community network folks :) > > At least I would suggest to: > > 1) Include the consideration of the effect of the > introduction of wired-links, at least in the backbone. Our vision > is to have three of four wireless hops at most everywhere. > > 2) Avoid the idea of a totally unplanned network made out of ultra-cheap > devices. Obviously the performance of a WiFi 10€ router should not be > comparable to a >1000€ wired router. > > 3) Include the social economics in the economics section (otherwise > you will observe inexplicable behaviours). > > Best regards. > > > > > regards > > > > -- Arjuna Sathiaseelan Personal: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~as2330/ > > N4D Lab: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~as2330/n4d > > > > > > _______________________________________________ gaia mailing list > > gaia@irtf.org https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/gaia > > > > > > - -- > Roger Baig Viñas > Fundació Privada per a la Xarxa Oberta, Lliure i Neutral guifi.net > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1 > > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJWdANaAAoJEKzTrZPPgKKDGRUP/RQunzDMc/XzvghuIDe09kH8 > L8PRa1KyRR0LdkZLhzDtLMMUe0y1gwbmMWN+PmFkke/3+vC/dAdbgfpDZzmfTvoK > IW8vapxjK+t8Rus0Q/ftGxOiVMtCjP+9uL/+X5XOQXj4/g9P7iNdSP2pPE8kOK5Y > 6yIZ6Ro/RbxijyHAfwhLxSHnEi/9w+KhGgWR0liH7mNapj7pAK0zn6qnr5ZWLx7E > FRoCG32PW5/LpPpeIqtOlkICir958MOR7vZfjhPOL3f6L6mpzqMHlOFTroEVgH3X > ayLJnsUi6rh1Zy+iu5FBcA08+fACQQpi5ma+V6LLwzWZDGjRR/+v3vmnqMKx4DtA > drkKrdgI6LUVlFvOHf/PnkR5VF1joXCWFD2h/wfuAME9b298EJWIxfpqCWdeB7QV > OOdTuU03k+DTKV9ycj7i6a5GLbbR+XwUrnQsebG1T53XdK2tOzF5LJ9RrbDChMi3 > huqM3TIoxrbIMUI/KDVIq0/wj3Tv+6tNik5c4PrndgDuUy+TWhxJDH2WkEqX6m62 > T/U4zFcfDtr2FRVYerF+4Ecb/vQZwl8JXGjdizll6xjhi33EhcAtGAhz040GoVpx > T0WLB13RoA7/5y3xXIALMpY1S9llYRhlQ+YrdMG8yp0VVgbz+AsTuRjl8hvNNHIj > gYaLBXSAzR1gQlokbmZL > =pbKM > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > gaia mailing list > gaia@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/gaia > -- Arjuna Sathiaseelan Personal: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~as2330/ N4D Lab: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~as2330/n4d
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