Re: [gaia] An Internet Draft about Community Networks. A first question

Hello Leandro,

in order to contribute, do you prefer text over mail, or changes in the 
draft?

Rute
On 18/06/14 15:53, Leandro Navarro wrote:
> Hi,
> On 18 Jun 2014, at 16:25, Jose Saldana <jsaldana@unizar.es> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We have a first question. We had some doubts about this: should we include in the draft Networks in which Wi-Fi is shared by individuals, but they are in fact managed by a company (e.g. FON)?
>>
>>>>    There exist other networks, also based on sharing wireless resources
>>>>    of the users, but not built upon the initiative of the users
>>>>    themselves, nor owned by them.  The characterization of these
>>>>    networks is not the objective of this document.
>> As you may see, in the current version they are not included, but we have some doubts…
> Well, for me is simple:
>
> 1) Community networks is mainly about expanding the network infrastructure (mostly wireless, reaching places and people not covered by other models)  !=  Internet access service + business model built on federated wifi access points on existing networks (Fon or Eduroam).
>
> 2) There are also municipal networks that share more traits with community networks (different org, level of participation, etc), but clearly:
>   community != company (many implications).
>
> Related but not equal ... better use different terms and describe separately to avoid increasing confusion and diluting the term “community network” too much.
>
>
> Regards, Leandro.
>
>> Jose
>>
>>> -----Mensaje original-----
>>> De: gaia [mailto:gaia-bounces@irtf.org] En nombre de Jose Saldana
>>> Enviado el: miércoles, 18 de junio de 2014 16:21
>>> Para: gaia@irtf.org
>>> Asunto: [gaia] An Internet Draft about Community Networks
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> After some weeks, we have been able to build an Internet Draft about Community
>>> Networks. At this stage we would like to hear the feedback from people in the list.
>>>
>>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-networks/
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Jose
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Mensaje original-----
>>>> De: internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] Enviado
>>>> el: miércoles, 18 de junio de 2014 16:18
>>>> Para: Carlos Rey-Moreno; Leandro Navarro; Carlos Rey-Moreno; Andres
>>>> Arcia- Moret; Marco Zennaro; Arjuna Sathiaseelan; Arjuna Sathiaseelan;
>>>> Bart Braem; Leandro Navarro; Bart Braem; Jose Saldana; Ermanno
>>>> Pietrosemoli; Ermanno Pietrosemoli; Jose Saldana; Marco Zennaro;
>>>> Andres Arcia-Moret
>>>> Asunto: New Version Notification for
>>>> draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-networks-
>>>> 00.txt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A new version of I-D, draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-networks-00.txt
>>>> has been successfully submitted by Jose Saldana and posted to the IETF
>>>> repository.
>>>>
>>>> Name:		draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-networks
>>>> Revision:	00
>>>> Title:		Community Networks. Definition and taxonomy
>>>> Document date:	2014-06-18
>>>> Group:		Individual Submission
>>>> Pages:		23
>>>> URL:            http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-
>>>> networks-00.txt
>>>> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-
>>>> networks/
>>>> Htmlized:       http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-networks-
>>> 00
>>>>
>>>> Abstract:
>>>>    Several communities have developed initiatives to build large scale,
>>>>    self-organized and decentralized community wireless networks that use
>>>>    wireless technologies (including long distance) due to the reduced
>>>>    cost of using the unlicensed spectrum.  This can be motivated by
>>>>    different causes: Sometimes the reluctance, or the impossibility, of
>>>>    network operators to provide wired and cellular infrastructures to
>>>>    rural/remote areas has motivated the rise of these networks.  Some
>>>>    other times, they are built as a complement and an alternative to
>>>>    wired Internet access.
>>>>
>>>>    These community wireless networks have self sustainable business
>>>>    models that provide more localised communication services as well as
>>>>    providing Internet backhaul support through peering agreements with
>>>>    traditional network operators who see such community led networks as
>>>>    a way to extend their reach to rural/remote areas at lower cost.
>>>>
>>>>    This document defines these networks, summarizes their technological
>>>>    characteristics and classifies them, also talking about their socio-
>>>>    economic sustainability models.
>>>>
>>>>    There exist other networks, also based on sharing wireless resources
>>>>    of the users, but not built upon the initiative of the users
>>>>    themselves, nor owned by them.  The characterization of these
>>>>    networks is not the objective of this document.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
>>>> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>>>>
>>>> The IETF Secretariat
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