Re: [gaia] 6Ghz wifi

[Arjuna Sathiaseelan <[e-mail]>]

+1

Smokes and weed that's dope :)

Regards

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018, 17:58 Jane Coffin, <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Good people of GAIA..
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> Holy Smokes.  The minute the spectrum, Radio Regs (the RRs), and/or World
> Radio Conference (WRC) agendae are triggered do things get interesting fast
> 😉
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> I reached out to a colleague who is far more in the weeds from the WRC
> side… as Niels’ query was interesting from many sides for me…
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> Here is the response I received and note the accompanying doc…Take this as
> you will, but note that the WRC Agenda is the guiding agenda for the WRC
> which amends a treaty – the Radio Regulations (RRs mentioned above).
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> “When you say "6GHz WiFi" it would be useful to be specific about what
> frequency range [is] being considered.  WiFi is an application in the
> mobile service, so it may not be utilized in bands that do not have a
> Mobile Service allocation.  Additionally, for those bands with a mobile
> service allocation in this range, the use of RLANs is guided by (WRC)
> Resolution 229 (see attached), which was adopted by the WRC-03 and revised
> by the WRC-12.   As some companies want to expand the use of WiFi in this
> range,  WRC-19 has an item on its agenda (AI 1.16), which deals with
> wireless access systems (RLANS) between 5150 - 5925 MHz, which is as
> follows:
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> 1.16    to consider issues related to wireless access systems, including
> radio local area networks (WAS/RLAN), in the frequency bands between 5 150
> MHz and 5 925 MHz, and take the appropriate regulatory actions, including
> additional spectrum allocations to the mobile service, in accordance with
> Resolution 239 [COM6/22] (WRC 15);
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> The bands allocated to the mobile service between 5150 - 5925 MHz, as well
> as bands above that range, are also allocated to a number of other services
> on a co-primary basis. You should be aware that there is strong evidence
> (i.e. from spectrum monitoring) that shows that the current use of WiFi in
> this band is causing serious interference into the other services.  So, the
> future expanded use is probably going to be a hotly debated issue at the
> WRC-19.”
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> See attached WRC Res. 229.
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> Best,
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> Jane
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> *From: *gaia <[e-mail]> on behalf of Steve Song <
> [e-mail]>
> *Date: *Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 9:52 AM
> *To: *"[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
> *Subject: *Re: [gaia] 6Ghz wifi
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> Hi all,
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> Largely driven by the US and actively supported by chipset manufacturers
> like Broadcom, Intel, Hewlett-Packard and others as well as Facebook.
> There is work going on in Europe as well but a year or two behind where
> things are in the US.  I am attaching the details of a current study
> underway.  Worth noting that while the US Is looking from 5.9GHz up to
> 7GHz, the European study is only 5.9GHz to 6.4GHz.
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> I don't think this is on the agenda for WRC19.  My guess is that countries
> like the US will drive forward this this, manufacturers will jump on board
> and other countries will follow suit with the ITU/WRC ratifying things post
> facto some time in the mid 2020's
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> This is a standard that is likely to be backed by any organisation that
> want to delivery high definition streaming content.
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> Cheers... Steve
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> On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 10:10, Jane Coffin <[e-mail]> wrote:
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> Hi Niels -
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> Each country regulates at the national level within the parameters they
> set, bounded by the radio regulations in some part, but driven by national
> implementation and market, reg/pol, and other conditions.
>
> We have seen some countries pushing back on the concept of unlicensed,
> license-free anything.
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> So, I do not think this is a ubiquitous issue driven by ITU-R for a number
> of reasons.  Likely a result of congestion in other bands.
> But, I can ask some colleagues if this was something that the last WRC
> agenda set?
> Or, do others know?
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> Best,
> Jane
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> On 10/3/18, 3:20 AM, "gaia on behalf of Niels ten Oever" <
> [e-mail] on behalf of [e-mail]> wrote:
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>     Is this a unilateral plan, or is this something that is also in the
>     works in the ITU-R ?
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>     Cheers,
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>     Niels
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>     On 10/03/2018 07:01 AM, Arjuna Sathiaseelan wrote:
>     > /FCC will ‘propose new rules’ allowing Wi-Fi devices to operate in
> the 6
>     > GHz band/
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> https://wifinowevents.com/news-and-blog/a-new-era-in-wi-fi-fcc-fast-tracks-wi-fi-in-6-ghz-band/amp/
>     > <
> https://wifinowevents.com/news-and-blog/a-new-era-in-wi-fi-fcc-fast-tracks-wi-fi-in-6-ghz-band/amp/
> >
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