Re: [gaia] Blog on AFRINIC proposal

[Nicolas Pace <[e-mail]>]

Agreed... We still have to deal (as a global community) with the urgency of governments controlling traffic shutting down connectivity. Would be interesting to be able to share an approach that, in a short or long timespan, we could walk to find solutions to this situations.
One could be cross boarder links, or border IXPs... But I'm not that versed in these things to give an opinion

On June 3, 2017 4:57:05 PM GMT+03:00, Vint Cerf <[e-mail]> wrote:
>the problem with this proposal is that it enters a slippery slope
>regarding
>use of the Internet by a party that is responsible for connectivity and
>not
>content. While the intent is laudable, it would lead to the same kinds
>of
>messes that ICANN is discovering as a result of the semantics
>associated
>with domain names. Before any RIR adopts such a proposal, I think there
>should be some discussion among all the RIRs - and, frankly, I hope
>that
>such efforts as this would be rejected as an overshoot of authority.
>
>vint
>
>
>On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Nicolas Pace <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Vint for sharing your point of view.
>> If I may give my two cents, through advocacy is that, in the summit
>here
>> in nayrobi the community all together wrote the proposal.
>>
>> There needs to be stronger efforts to make internet less
>country-dependant
>> and more resilient... But these are urgent matters. While we get to
>that
>> resilient future, we need to support our communities on their
>decisions
>> regarding their own problematics.
>>
>> I understand that IP address may seem to be a technical thing, but
>> governments are hijacking them into a political standpoint.
>>
>> Instead of making this a specific action, I would suggest that we
>could
>> work out a regulation that requires IP tenants not to shutdown
>connectivity
>> as a condition to receive their ranges... Or some sort of agreement
>on
>> openness.
>>
>> Could it be possible, and would it be useful to tackle this issue?
>What do
>> you think?
>>
>>
>> On June 3, 2017 4:41:04 PM GMT+03:00, Vint Cerf <[e-mail]>
>wrote:
>>>
>>> I implied it: advocacy
>>>
>>> v
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Nicolas Pace <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What would be your approach on this matter then? I'm curious to
>know
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On June 3, 2017 4:36:36 PM GMT+03:00, Vint Cerf <[e-mail]>
>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> My reaction: politicizing IP address allocation is a mistake and
>could
>>>>> have enormous, negative consequences including a wide range of
>>>>> fragmentation and legal intimidation of the RIRs.  Advocacy is
>fine but
>>>>> withholding IP addresses for political reasons is not wise.
>>>>>
>>>>> v
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 5:16 AM, Corinne Cath
><[e-mail]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CFR invited me to write a blog about the recent AFRINIC proposal
>to
>>>>>> deny IP addresses to governments mandating Internet shutdowns.
>Might be of
>>>>>> interest.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.cfr.org/article/should-technical-actors-play-pol
>>>>>> itical-role-internet-age
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Corinne J.N. Cath
>>>>>> Ph.D. Candidate, Oxford Internet Institute & Alan Turing
>Institute
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Web: www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/corinne-cath
>>>>>> Email: [e-mail] & [e-mail]
>>>>>> Twitter: @C_Cath
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