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willi uebelherr <willi.uebelherr@riseup.net> Sat, 16 September 2017 00:57 UTC

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Yes, dear Vesna and Kurtis. For me, this is the colonialism of the 
colonialism. It is to search a way for colonialise the colonialised 
people and to reestablish the colonial thinking in the powerful NATO++ 
environment.

That this text is published in a "western" journal is clear for me. They 
want to destroy all his bad history. The bad conscience of the perpetrators.

many greetings, willi
in this time: Asuncion, Paraguay


Am 15/9/2017 um 10:02 schrieb Vesna Manojlovic:
> (hi, i am mostly lurning here, but this got my attention..)
> 
> On Thu, 14 Sep 2017, Kurtis Heimerl wrote:
> 
>> I'm personally pretty sure this is satire.
> 
> i hope you are right.
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Arjuna Sathiaseelan 
>> <arjuna.sathiaseelan@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>       a paper thats creating a furore within the development community
>>       http://fooddeserts.org/images/paper0114.pdf
> 
> i can imagine why the furore.
> 
> i find the argumentation well polished, but full of falacies, 
> entitlement, patronising and morally wrong. it justifies violence and 
> dispossession, destrucion of natural habitats for profit of the 
> "technologically advanced" colonizers, genocides and ecocides...
> 
> i don't have enough words to describe my outrage. that this kind of 
> "paper" could be published by a serious academic, in a peer-reviewed 
> "journal", is making me sad.
> (or can just anyone pretend to be on the editorail of such a journal?)
> 
> Vesna
> 
> 
> 
> for the backgorund: "Wretched of the Earth", Frantz Fanon
> 
> https://bookshop.theguardian.com/wretched-of-the-earth.html
> 
> Provides inspiration for anti-colonial movements ever since, analysing 
> the role of class, race, national culture and violence in the struggle 
> for freedom. In this book, the author makes clear the economic and 
> psychological degradation inflicted by imperialism.
> 
> & 
> http://www.essential-humanities.net/history-supplementary/european-colonialism/ 
> 
> 
> 
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