Re: [gaia] What if all phones were always on the Internet?
Rohan Mahy <rohan.ietf@gmail.com> Sat, 28 November 2015 01:37 UTC
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Subject: Re: [gaia] What if all phones were always on the Internet?
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Thanks Steve, You did a nice job of explaining this model that I’ve also been quietly promoting. I have two comments: 1) I think backhaul is a serious limiting factor here in some remote areas. If the nearest tower is serviced by satellite or any of the slowish configurations of terrestrial microwave, paying customers might already be getting less than full 2G. That was certainly the case in some of the places I lived. I think it is reasonable to offer 2G for free when 3G is in place (or 2G with a high-speed terrestrial wireless or fiber backhaul). This would also make it obvious to users and regulators which locations need backhaul upgrades. 2) The approach of bandwidth limiting instead of volume limiting is both more valuable for the end user (a little bit of data every day is worth more than one big burst at the beginning of the month) and easier to implement for the mobile network operator (when a free Internet user roams the infrastructure does not need to keep track of total usage). Thanks, -rohan On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 6:36 AM, Steve Song <stevesong@nsrc.org> wrote: > Hi all, > > Following on some of the previous discussion about the non-linear > relationship between Internet speed and value to the consumer; and > reflecting on some of the discussions on zero-rating at the IGF; and > thinking further about the PAYG model that enabled the dramatic growth of > mobile telephony in emerging markets, I came to the conclusion that a > low-bitrate, always-on Internet for all mobile phones would benefit > everyone. > > https://manypossibilities.net/2015/11/zero-rating-a-modest-proposal/ > > Would love to have the idea critiqued (gently). > > Thanks... Steve Song > > _______________________________________________ > gaia mailing list > gaia@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/gaia > >
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