Re: [gaia] Ammbr: Happy Marriage of mesh and blockchain

Jon Crowcroft <jon.crowcroft@cl.cam.ac.uk> Fri, 22 September 2017 07:00 UTC

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i think that post confuses bitcoin specifics with how to do scalable fast
consensus - there are quite a few papers on making consensus scale up to
very high speeds- forthcoming conext paper from keshav has some very
impressive transaction rates..
S. Rizvi, B, Wong, and S. Keshav, "Canopus: A Scalable and Massively
Parallel Consensus Protocol," To appear, Proc. CoNEXT 2017, December 2017.
but for the impatient, you can also read this paper on high throughput, low
latency from folks who are :
very expert in this space (cornell, imperial):
Teechan: Payment Channels Using Trusted Execution Environments
https://arxiv.org/abs/1612.07766

there's a lot of other solutions out there too (I believe deepmind/google
have some inhouse thing they are working on with a target of 10M
trsansactions per sec)....

much of this depends on the workload assumptions though

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 9:36 PM, Arjuna Sathiaseelan <
arjuna.sathiaseelan@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> this post was interesting:
> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/slow-blockchain-mathematical-certainty-
> patrick-mcconnell/
>
> On 12 August 2017 at 15:02, Jon Crowcroft <jon.crowcroft@cl.cam.ac.uk>
> wrote:
> > ah, you could run global consensus (blockchain) on the transactions then
> use
> > a route later - yes, that'd work....then you could get rid of
> reflationary
> > stuff + remove unfairness....would take some care in design....
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Vint Cerf <vint@google.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Jon,
> >>
> >> if you do not care about delays and you allow storing (encrypted)
> packets
> >> until a link/route is available as in DTN networks, how would this
> analysis
> >> change?
> >>
> >> vint
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Jon Crowcroft
> >> <jon.crowcroft@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> great! fab - checkout this thing we did a while on "currency" & ad hoc
> >>> nets - there's a bit about inflationary/deflationary tendencies near
> the end
> >>> might be worth factoring in...
> >>> http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~frank/PAPERS/micmahn.pdf
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 11:39 PM, Arjuna Sathiaseelan
> >>> <arjuna.sathiaseelan@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> This article would be of interest to a new initiative to build a
> >>>> decentralised network using blockchain - technically aiming to build
> the
> >>>> world's largest blockchain network:
> >>>> https://medium.com/@globalsecurepayments/the-
> happy-marriage-of-mesh-and-blockchain-276cce4a4909
> >>>>
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