Re: [gaia] Ideas for a 2021 plan

Henning Schulzrinne <> Fri, 22 January 2021 17:17 UTC

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A basic test is that if the number of articles about a network operator
exceeds the number of actual customers/users, the story is probably more
about hope (or faith) than reality. (Google Fiber is a good test case...)

At least in the US, there seems to be a new appreciation of various models
of providing network services in high-cost or low-income areas.
For example, for high cost areas, networks where the infrastructure is
installed or paid for by the local government, but the service is operated
by one or more private entities. Or cases where a provider of electric
utility services also offers, either directly or through a subsidiary or
affiliate, broadband access.

Also, talking about access without specifying whether this is for basic
text messaging (maybe a MB a month), basic non-video web access (less than
a GB/month), or access suitable for remote learning and working (probably
tens of GB/month/person) isn't very helpful. Some of the wireless mesh
networks do ok for the first two, but fail for the third, for example. And,
increasingly, commercial cellular services can handle the first two.

In that general spirit, you may find of interest. (Disclaimer: I had
something to do with this.)


On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 4:35 AM Arjuna Sathiaseelan <> wrote:

> As part of a Gaia effort it will be good to document how many community
> networks are actually having a network and are successful (e.g Guifi) and
> how many networks are ideologically staying around without actually having
> any impact whatsoever? The concept of community networks should evolve
> through facts and not mere hype stories.
> This is important for donors to really understand where their money is
> being spent and how.
> I know a handful of community networks that are conceptually around but
> nothing has really happened. I dont want to publicly name them here. We
> need more accountability to avoid misuse of funds.
> Arjuna