Re: [gaia] Ammbr: Happy Marriage of mesh and blockchain

Fernando Ramos <fvramos@ciencias.ulisboa.pt> Fri, 22 September 2017 08:24 UTC

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Keshav’s work seems really interesting. To those that are really really impatient, as I was, you can check the slides here so you have an idea:

LOTKeeper: A Scalable and Massively Parallel Consensus Protocol <https://www.google.pt/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwiq0-TVqbjWAhXNSxoKHdOuA80QFggmMAA&url=http://blizzard.cs.uwaterloo.ca/iss4e/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/EnergyBlockchain.pptx&usg=AFQjCNHDrgfpoQf2hG_yjtRy1KnQZOPQfg>

NB: there are many hidden slides with more detail. Also note slide 76, based on the original one from Marko Vukolic, that shows pretty well what they achieve - very cool.

Thanks for sharing Jon.

Cheers,

Fernando

> No dia 22/09/2017, às 08:00, Jon Crowcroft <jon.crowcroft@cl.cam.ac.uk> escreveu:
> 
> i think that post confuses bitcoin specifics with how to do scalable fast consensus - there are quite a few papers on making consensus scale up to very high speeds- forthcoming conext paper from keshav has some very impressive transaction rates..
> S. Rizvi, B, Wong, and S. Keshav, "Canopus: A Scalable and Massively Parallel Consensus Protocol," To appear, Proc. CoNEXT 2017, December 2017.
> but for the impatient, you can also read this paper on high throughput, low latency from folks who are : 
> very expert in this space (cornell, imperial):
> Teechan: Payment Channels Using Trusted Execution Environments
> https://arxiv.org/abs/1612.07766
> 
> there's a lot of other solutions out there too (I believe deepmind/google have some inhouse thing they are working on with a target of 10M trsansactions per sec)....
> 
> much of this depends on the workload assumptions though
> 
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 9:36 PM, Arjuna Sathiaseelan <arjuna.sathiaseelan@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> this post was interesting:
> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/slow-blockchain-mathematical-certainty-patrick-mcconnell/
> 
> On 12 August 2017 at 15:02, Jon Crowcroft <jon.crowcroft@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> > ah, you could run global consensus (blockchain) on the transactions then use
> > a route later - yes, that'd work....then you could get rid of reflationary
> > stuff + remove unfairness....would take some care in design....
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Vint Cerf <vint@google.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Jon,
> >>
> >> if you do not care about delays and you allow storing (encrypted) packets
> >> until a link/route is available as in DTN networks, how would this analysis
> >> change?
> >>
> >> vint
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Jon Crowcroft
> >> <jon.crowcroft@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> great! fab - checkout this thing we did a while on "currency" & ad hoc
> >>> nets - there's a bit about inflationary/deflationary tendencies near the end
> >>> might be worth factoring in...
> >>> http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~frank/PAPERS/micmahn.pdf
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 11:39 PM, Arjuna Sathiaseelan
> >>> <arjuna.sathiaseelan@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> This article would be of interest to a new initiative to build a
> >>>> decentralised network using blockchain - technically aiming to build the
> >>>> world's largest blockchain network:
> >>>> https://medium.com/@globalsecurepayments/the-happy-marriage-of-mesh-and-blockchain-276cce4a4909
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