Re: [gaia] Blog on AFRINIC proposal
Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> Sun, 04 June 2017 15:43 UTC
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Subject: Re: [gaia] Blog on AFRINIC proposal
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On Sat, Jun 03, 2017 at 05:09:51PM +0300, Nicolas Pace wrote: > One could be cross boarder links, or border IXPs... But I'm not that versed in these things to give an opinion > A government sufficiently motivated to "shut down the Internet" will shut down those links and IXPs too, unless they are of sufficient density and number that the government can't go after them all. The "numbers" problem is actually _part_ of the problem. (This is also, of course, why increased concentration in "tier 1" transit providers is dangerous for the Internet.) But the more basic problem with the proposal as presented is that it is attempting a tech fix to a social problem. Governments who intervene in this way have decided that access to the Internet by (some subset of their) citizens is less valuable to them than control over communications. This pattern is the same whether it is shutdowns by any government anywhere, or (in my opinion) less catastrophic but more corrisive attacks such as overall weakening of cryptographic algorithms or the hoarding of network-effective vulnerabilities. The answer to all of that is to continue to make the Internet ever more valuable both in its own terms and in social terms. We want to create the conditions in which, when governments say they're going to "shut down" the Internet, they look absurd because they're going to do most damage to themselves. I want it to be as the scene in _Blazing Saddles_: "Nobody move or the prisoner* gets it!" That's not advocacy, of course. It's instead, "Everything over IP." Still a good slogan. Best regards, A * note: not the actual word in the scene. -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com
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- Re: [gaia] Blog on AFRINIC proposal Vint Cerf
- Re: [gaia] Blog on AFRINIC proposal Nicolas Pace
- Re: [gaia] Blog on AFRINIC proposal Vint Cerf
- Re: [gaia] Blog on AFRINIC proposal Nicolas Pace
- Re: [gaia] Blog on AFRINIC proposal Vint Cerf
- Re: [gaia] Blog on AFRINIC proposal Nicolas Pace
- Re: [gaia] Blog on AFRINIC proposal Vint Cerf
- Re: [gaia] Blog on AFRINIC proposal Jon Crowcroft
- Re: [gaia] Blog on AFRINIC proposal Corinne Cath
- Re: [gaia] Blog on AFRINIC proposal Vint Cerf
- Re: [gaia] Blog on AFRINIC proposal Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [gaia] Blog on AFRINIC proposal Sebastian Bellagamba
- Re: [gaia] Blog on AFRINIC proposal Arjuna Sathiaseelan
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- Re: [gaia] Blog on AFRINIC proposal Alejandro Acosta
- Re: [gaia] Blog on AFRINIC proposal Amreesh Phokeer
- Re: [gaia] Blog on AFRINIC proposal Arjuna Sathiaseelan
- Re: [gaia] Blog on AFRINIC proposal Mallory Knodel
- Re: [gaia] Blog on AFRINIC proposal Maureen Hernandez
- Re: [gaia] Blog on AFRINIC proposal Andrew Sullivan
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