Re: [gaia] research vs business questions, the integral approach

[Yahel Ben-David <[e-mail]>]

Hi Paula,

I fail to understand what you ask, or what's the research question you wish
to explore?
It does feel like you might be asking this community of researchers -- "why
does AirJaldi not answering me?"
On that front, I could only say that I know the AirJaldi team quite well
and it's quite extreme that theydon't answer someone - I can only guess why
that might be.

Thanks,

Yahel.

Yahel Ben-David, Ph.D.
*De Novo Group - E**xecutive Director*

*Bridging the gap between research and impact.*
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On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 10:41 PM, Paola Di Maio <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Happy New Year Everyone at IRTF!!
>
> I think I have seen threads on this list, discussing the complex socio
> technical relations between policy, business and internet technology.
>
> I am  posting a note on a case study I am plannig to write up,  hoping
> that someone can help me to understand what is happening.
>
> My organisation, ISTCS.org, has been operating collaboratively with
> individual researchers and institutions in different countries for
> some years. One the one hand we do advanced systems research (socio
> technical systems , modelling,, brain computer interfaces etc) and
> some paid work when it comes up, on the other hand we run community
> ICT programmes, generally workshops, facilitiating learning, reusing
> computers etc. on a totally pro bono basis.
>
> The work that requires a stable connection is generally done in
> developed countries or cities, other work in very rural and remote
> areas. where unfortunately the internet infrastructure is often not
> up.
>
> Two years ago approximately not sure how, we were invited to join
> IRTF/Gaia as its members initiatives could synergise with our efforts,
> in particular the setting up the wifi
>
> Via this list  I was connected with Jim and MIckey of Airjaldi who
> serve one of the regions we work in.
>
> Now while we are still waiting for a viable broadband provision in
> some of our project locations (because they are not served by the
> providers), in some others it looks like Airjaldi has started putting
> up network, although the Jaldihotspot icon comes up in the network in
> range, nobody afaik is able to use it yet.
>
> Are these reasons technical, or business reasons, I do not know,
>
> Advancing the provision of rural bandwidth in our region (so that we can
> start the research programme) is part of the mission.
>
> I have funding to purchase any necessary extra equipment tp improve
> the current technical capability, or extend the range (currently
> network not only appears not to work b ut is also available only in a
> small spot) to set up legal entities, and collaborate with number of
> private enterprises who could act as partners, NGOs, institutions etc.
> to work with as required
>
> I have not yet fleshed out the research questions as such, but from an
> integral research perspective, the fact that the main provider in the
> region is not responding to emails and offers of purchasing equipment
> if necessary - ,for me is a research issue
>
> When I go to foundations such as DEF (Digital Empowerment Foundation)
> for advice, they say that I should talk to Airjaldi, but Airjaldi
> doesnt talk to me, and does not tell me why they dont talk to me.
>
> Is anyone else working on similar research, or facing similar seemingly
> problems?  Would this come under denial of service?
>
> I simply do not understand what is going on
>
> Thanks for any help in framing this issue
>
> PDM
>
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