Re: [gaia] A Comment on RFC 7962 " Alternative Network Deployments..." August 2016

Jane Coffin <coffin@isoc.org> Mon, 22 April 2019 13:36 UTC

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From: Jane Coffin <coffin@isoc.org>
To: Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>, "gaia@irtf.org" <gaia@irtf.org>
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Subject: Re: [gaia] A Comment on RFC 7962 " Alternative Network Deployments..." August 2016
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Dear Guntur –


Hello from Jane.  I am one of the co-chairs of GAIA, and Leandro Navarro is the other co-chair.  

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From: gaia <gaia-bounces@irtf.org>; on behalf of Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>;
Date: Friday, April 19, 2019 at 9:12 PM
To: "gaia@irtf.org"; <gaia@irtf.org>;
Subject: [gaia] A Comment on RFC 7962 " Alternative Network Deployments..." August 2016

 
Dear Persons in Charge,
It is about RFC 7962 "Alternatuve Network Deployments..." August 2016
https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7962
The part 3. Scenarios When Alternative Networks Deployed mention such statistics of 2014 and 2015: what was said in the International Telecommunication Union of the United Nations "Measuring Information Society 2018" that more than half of the world's population is now online.
https://www.itu..int/en/ITU-D/Statistics/Pages/publications/misr2018.aspx
While there is also the ITU of the UN report "Fast-forward Progress: Leveraging tech to achieve the global goals" (https://www.itu.int/en/sustainable-world/Documents/Fast-forward_progress_report_414709%20FINAL.pdf ) which is about insights in using ICTs to achieve the Sustainable Development Goals -- as the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development recognizes the possibilities of global connectivity to spur humanity....
This "comment" is related with B. Carpenter's and B. Liu' Internet Draft "Limited Domains and Internet Protocols (draft-carpenter limited-domains-07)": the 1st sentence said:
 
"As the Internet continues to grow and diversify, with a realistic prospect of tens of billions of nodes being connected directly and indirectly, there is a noticeable trend towards local requirements, behaviours and semantics".
 
https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-carpenter-limited-domains-07.txt
 
Regard,
Guntur Wiseno Putra