Re: [gaia] Video about community network using HF band
Javier Simó <javier.simo@urjc.es> Wed, 18 March 2020 15:02 UTC
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I'll try to get some info from the people that worked on that. If I succeed, I will send it to you. El 18/3/20 a las 15:31, Rafael Diniz escribió: > please read "Shannon channel capacity" where I wrote "Nyquist limit". > > On 3/18/20 11:27 AM, Rafael Diniz wrote: >> Hi Javier, but newQPSK in soundmodem, if my memory does not fail, is way >> wide wide than what we are using in HF, 2kHz. We are using OFDM, I'd say >> we are closer to Nyquist limit, but of course there is plenty of room >> for optimization in the MAC and upper protocol layers. >> >> Rafael >> >> On 3/18/20 6:41 AM, Javier Simó wrote: >>> 18 years ago we worked on a HF packet-radio based solution and developed >>> improvements using OFDM newQPSK; getting up to 9600 bits/s. I don't >>> know whether I can find the expert who might resemble all the details, >>> code, etc, but if you feel it could be interesting I can explore that. >>> >>> Best >>> >>> Javier >>> >>> >>> El 18/3/20 a las 4:31, Rafael Diniz escribió: >>>> Gracias Luiz! >>>> >>>> We carried initial tests of this system in Mexico. The raw throughput, >>>> in reasonable propagation conditions, is from 500 up to 4k bit/s. In >>>> "real world" tropical region NVIS trx with hundreds of kilometers of >>>> distance, with packet protocol and ARQ layers in place, the net >>>> throughput ranges from 50 to 500 bit/s, depending on many factors. >>>> >>>> Abrazo, >>>> Rafael >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3/17/20 6:23 PM, Luis Martinez wrote: >>>>> Parabens Rafael ! >>>>> It is wonderful, we are discussing a project like that in Mexico. Can >>>>> you share what is the speed you are able to achieve ? >>>>> Obrigado. >>>>> Luiz >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On March 17, 2020 at 1:37:42 PM, Rafael Diniz (rafael@riseup.net >>>>> <mailto:rafael@riseup.net>) wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is the link of our latest developments about HERMES[1]: >>>>>> https://vimeo.com/398331581 >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Rafael Diniz >>>>>> Rhizomatica >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] https://www.rhizomatica.org/hermes/ >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> gaia mailing list >>>>>> gaia@irtf.org <mailto:gaia@irtf.org> >>>>>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/gaia >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> gaia mailing list >>>> gaia@irtf.org >>>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/gaia >>> -- >>> >>> >>> *Francisco Javier Simó Reigadas* >>> >>> *Profesor, Director de la ETSIT* >>> >>> *Dep**t. Teoría de la Señal y Comunic. y Sist. Telemáticos y Computación* >>> >>> Universidad Rey Juan Carlos >>> >>> Campus de Fuenlabrada(Madrid), España >>> >>> Teléfono: 91 4888167 >>> >>> javier.simo@urjc.es <mailto:javier.simo@urjc.es>| www.urjc.es >>> <http://www.urjc.es>| @URJC | >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> gaia mailing list >>> gaia@irtf.org >>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/gaia >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> gaia mailing list >> gaia@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/gaia >> -- *Francisco Javier Simó Reigadas* *Profesor, Director de la ETSIT* *Dep**t. Teoría de la Señal y Comunic. y Sist. Telemáticos y Computación* Universidad Rey Juan Carlos Campus de Fuenlabrada(Madrid), España Teléfono: 91 4888167 javier.simo@urjc.es <mailto:javier.simo@urjc.es>| www.urjc.es <http://www.urjc.es>| @URJC |
- [gaia] Video about community network using HF band Rafael Diniz
- Re: [gaia] Video about community network using HF… Luis Martinez
- Re: [gaia] Video about community network using HF… Rafael Diniz
- Re: [gaia] Video about community network using HF… Javier Simó
- Re: [gaia] Video about community network using HF… Adam Burns
- Re: [gaia] Video about community network using HF… Jane Coffin
- Re: [gaia] Video about community network using HF… Rafael Diniz
- Re: [gaia] Video about community network using HF… Rafael Diniz
- Re: [gaia] Video about community network using HF… Rafael Diniz
- Re: [gaia] Video about community network using HF… Rafael Diniz
- Re: [gaia] Video about community network using HF… Javier Simó
- Re: [gaia] Video about community network using HF… Jane Coffin
- Re: [gaia] Video about community network using HF… Adam Burns
- Re: [gaia] Video about community network using HF… Rafael Diniz
- Re: [gaia] Video about community network using HF… Leandro Navarro
- Re: [gaia] Video about community network using HF… Luis Martinez
- Re: [gaia] Video about community network using HF… David Johnson