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Re: [gaia] What if all phones were always on the Internet?

Jon Crowcroft <jon.crowcroft@cl.cam.ac.uk> Thu, 26 November 2015 14:38 UTC

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Subject: Re: [gaia] What if all phones were always on the Internet?
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sort of the equiv of all phones in japan ship with FM radio so they can
receive quake warnings, only more general - nice!

On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Steve Song <stevesong@nsrc.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Following on some of the previous discussion about the non-linear
> relationship between Internet speed and value to the consumer; and
> reflecting on some of the discussions on zero-rating at the IGF; and
> thinking further about the PAYG model that enabled the dramatic growth of
> mobile telephony in emerging markets, I came to the conclusion that a
> low-bitrate, always-on Internet for all mobile phones would benefit
> everyone.
>
> https://manypossibilities.net/2015/11/zero-rating-a-modest-proposal/
>
> Would love to have the idea critiqued (gently).
>
> Thanks... Steve Song
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