Re: [gaia] What if all phones were always on the Internet?

Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu> Thu, 26 November 2015 21:42 UTC

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Subject: Re: [gaia] What if all phones were always on the Internet?
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Broadcast data delivery is being discussed for ATSC 3.0, the possible
successor to the current over-the-air TV standard in the US and Canada (and
other places). But many of the places that don't have LTE 4G service also
have dicey OTA TV reception, e.g., due to being shaded by mountains (think
West Virginia or Rocky Mountains).

Henning

On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Dirk Kutscher <Dirk.Kutscher@neclab.eu>
wrote:

> There are two different service categories that I find interesting:
>
> 1) Ubiquituous, low-cost (or free) Baseline mobile communication (like
> T-Mobile USA's international 64kbit/s service).
>
> 2) Broadcast data service, e.g., over long-range radio or more dense
> digital broadcast services.
>
> Japan had digital broadcast in phones since 2006 ("oneseg", based on the
> Japanese ISDB-T standard for digital terrestial broadcast). This could also
> be used for earthquake warnings, and, of course EPG distribution etc.
>
> Here is a link to a report by DOCOMO from that time:
> https://www.nttdocomo.co.jp/english/binary/pdf/corporate/technology/rd/technical_journal/bn/vol8_1/vol8_1_047en.pdf
>
> My view is that it's about time to extend the general understanding of
> mobile communication to services like delay-tolerant background
> transmission or proactive information distribution.
>
> Unfortunately little of this is being considered in the still relatively
> bellhead-dominated 5G efforts...
>
>
> --
> Dirk
>
>