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From: Leandro Navarro Moldes <leandro.navarro@upc.edu>
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2026 22:57:44 +0100
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Hi Marcelo and all,

Related to your proposal, a few years ago I supervised Roger Baig's PhD,
while he was working for the guifi.net Foundation, as an industrial
doctorate.

It describes several of the aspects you mention but of course mapping to
the guifi.net community network, mainly in Spain. Among other theories it
builds on Nobel Prize awarded Elinor Ostrom common pool resource model and
commons principles:

https://dsg.ac.upc.edu/rogerb-phd/

Best regards, Leandro.

El dv., 27 de mar=C3=A7 2026, 21:22, Marcelo Anderson Batista Dos Santos
<marcelo.santos=3D40ifsertao-pe.edu.br@dmarc.ietf.org> va escriure:

> Hi,
>
> I would be interested in presenting an idea at the GAIA meeting in Vienna=
,
> if there is an available slot.
>
> I am a professor and researcher at the Instituto Federal do Sert=C3=A3o
> Pernambucano (IFSert=C3=A3oPE) in northeastern Brazil, where I work on co=
mmunity
> networks, IoT, and digital inclusion initiatives in the semi-arid Sert=C3=
=A3o
> region.
>
> I have been thinking about a gap in how we document community network
> deployments. We have a solid taxonomy of alternative network models (RFC
> 7962) and, more recently, valuable work on operational practices around
> device lifecycle (draft-gaia-circular-device-practices-00). But from my
> experience working with underserved communities, one recurring challenge =
is
> the lack of a shared, process-oriented reference that helps practitioners
> navigate the full journey of deploying and sustaining a community network=
 =E2=80=94
> from early community engagement through governance, operations, and
> long-term sustainability.
>
> The idea I would like to discuss is whether a maturity framework =E2=80=
=94
> defining key processes, practices, and progressive stages =E2=80=94 could=
 serve as
> a useful tool for the community networking space, and whether GAIA would =
be
> a good place for such work.
>
> I would also be happy to connect with others working on similar questions=
.
>
> Best regards,
> Marcelo Santos
> Instituto Federal do Sert=C3=A3o Pernambucano (IFSert=C3=A3oPE)
> Campus Salgueiro, Pernambuco, Brazil
>
>
> Em qui., 26 de mar. de 2026 =C3=A0s 23:14, Kurtis Heimerl <
> kheimerl@cs.washington.edu> escreveu:
>
>> Hi GAIA,
>>
>> I hope everyone is well through the ongoing turmoil. IETF 126 is coming
>> up soon; if you're interested in speaking for the Vienna GAIA meeting,
>> reach out to the chairs soon and we'll see if we can make it work.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Hi Marcelo and all,<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">Related to your proposal, a few years ago I supervised Roger Baig=
&#39;s PhD, while he was working for the <a href=3D"http://guifi.net">guifi=
.net</a> Foundation, as an industrial doctorate.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"auto">It describes several of the aspects you mention but of c=
ourse mapping to the <a href=3D"http://guifi.net">guifi.net</a> community n=
etwork, mainly in Spain. Among other theories it builds on Nobel Prize awar=
ded Elinor Ostrom common pool resource model and commons principles:</div><=
div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><a href=3D"https://dsg.ac.upc.=
edu/rogerb-phd/">https://dsg.ac.upc.edu/rogerb-phd/</a></div><div dir=3D"au=
to"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Best regards, Leandro.</div></div></div><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_attr">El dv., 27 de mar=C3=A7 2026, 21:22, Marcelo Anderson Batista =
Dos Santos &lt;marcelo.santos=3D<a href=3D"mailto:40ifsertao-pe.edu.br@dmar=
c.ietf.org">40ifsertao-pe.edu.br@dmarc.ietf.org</a>&gt; va escriure:<br></d=
iv><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left=
:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi,<br><br>I would =
be interested in presenting an idea at the GAIA meeting in Vienna, if there=
 is an available slot.<br><br>I am a professor and researcher at the Instit=
uto Federal do Sert=C3=A3o Pernambucano (IFSert=C3=A3oPE) in northeastern B=
razil, where I work on community networks, IoT, and digital inclusion initi=
atives in the semi-arid Sert=C3=A3o region.<br><br>I have been thinking abo=
ut a gap in how we document community network deployments. We have a solid =
taxonomy of alternative network models (RFC 7962) and, more recently, valua=
ble work on operational practices around device lifecycle (draft-gaia-circu=
lar-device-practices-00). But from my experience working with underserved c=
ommunities, one recurring challenge is the lack of a shared, process-orient=
ed reference that helps practitioners navigate the full journey of deployin=
g and sustaining a community network =E2=80=94 from early community engagem=
ent through governance, operations, and long-term sustainability.<br><br>Th=
e idea I would like to discuss is whether a maturity framework =E2=80=94 de=
fining key processes, practices, and progressive stages =E2=80=94 could ser=
ve as a useful tool for the community networking space, and whether GAIA wo=
uld be a good place for such work.=C2=A0<br><br>I would also be happy to co=
nnect with others working on similar questions.<br><br>Best regards,<br>Mar=
celo Santos<br>Instituto Federal do Sert=C3=A3o Pernambucano (IFSert=C3=A3o=
PE)<br>Campus Salgueiro, Pernambuco, Brazil</div><br></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Em qui., 26 de mar. =
de 2026 =C3=A0s 23:14, Kurtis Heimerl &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kheimerl@cs.was=
hington.edu" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">kheimerl@cs.washington.ed=
u</a>&gt; escreveu:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1=
ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi GAIA,</div><div><br></div><div>I hope everyone=
 is well through the ongoing turmoil. IETF 126 is coming up soon; if you=
9;re=C2=A0interested=C2=A0in speaking for the Vienna GAIA meeting, reach ou=
t to the chairs soon and we&#39;ll see if we can make it work.=C2=A0</div><=
div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><br><span class=3D"gmail_signature_prefix">=
-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>Website: <a href=3D"https://kurti.sh/" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://kurti.sh/</a><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Public Key: <a href=3D"https://flowcrypt.com/pub/kheimerl@cs.washingto=
n.edu" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://flowcrypt.com/pub/kheim=
erl@cs.washington.edu</a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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